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Good question! Here are my thoughts and beliefs on memory. Time and space, as we know it is experienced moment from moment. Our atoms, molecules, and our physical materialization emerges and appears from the “Timeless” dream states and from our personalized subconsciousness; from moment by moment, in and out in rapid succession in a linear perceived time stream. Our in and out materialization happens so quickly that our worldly senses are to slow and unable to notice our rapid appearance and disappearance, our rapid birth and death in this physical plane. Having said that, where does our memory go and come from? It comes and goes from the much larger you that exists in the timeless realm of consciousness! All your perceived linear moments from birth to death, from one life time to the next, the perceived birth and death of our Earth and our Universe is all happening at this moment in the “timeless” Absolute Ocean of Consciousness. Your death has already happened in the future you! You are not “aware” of it because of the “deliberate” manipulation of consciousness and the senses that have been given to us so that we can experience and perceive separation from the source of “All-That-Is”. Your perceived memories are filtered from this dream state of consciousness to make it seem like it happened yesterday, but in actual reality it is happen in the here and now. To make matters more confusing, your past and future “you” is constantly changing, that is why your memories are never the same. Your memories change with the change in your thoughts, ideas, imagination, believes and emotions. Food for thought!

To understand the “Conservative Mind” we must first agree to a basic concept of what the “Human Mind” is. Let’s use the following thoughts and beliefs for the moment and say that the Human Mind is also an EGO Consciousness that contains a limited and focused amount of knowledge and consciousness that projects your individual thoughts, ideas, expectations, beliefs, and emotions from formless dream state into the materialised physical dream state and collective dream state. (let’s just keep this simple and agree to this statement for the moment to propose the following thoughts and ideas…..) Now let’s go back 20 thousand years or so, and hypothesize that the human Ego had limited knowledge and consciousness and was only capable of focusing on the subjective and objective reality within the tribes psychological and physical boundaries. The Human Ego back then did not need to deal with world wars, technology, billions of people living in huge cities, traffic on major highways, complex relations around the world, complex laws and rules, politics, social media, space travel, etc. Back then, they only need to think about basic survival. You get the idea... It took the Human Ego 20 thousand years of evolution to expand its formless boundaries out enough to contain, hold, focus and discriminate all the knowledge, thoughts, ideas, beliefs that are available to us in the present moment. The Ego Consciousness back then was on individual survival, and was only able to view reality and the world around it, from its limited individual perspective and focal point. The evolution and development of the individual and collective Ego Consciousness "NOW" is directly related to how open and expanded the Ego consciousness is to accepting broader, more diverse and comprehensive concepts of thoughts, ideas, beliefs that are beyond basic survival, and beyond the limited perspective of the self in the physical and formless dream states. There are no two individual Ego’s that have the same thoughts, ideas, expectations, beliefs, feelings and emotion. There are no two individual Ego’s that are evolved, expanded or open to the same amount of conscious knowledge that is available to all Beings (Thank God). Spiral dynamics is a very limited, but a useful model that highlights some aspects of Human Ego conscious evolution. So, what is a Conservative mind? Well, If you believe in religion, me-me-me, I need to be important, I need approval, I need to compare, I need status, I need fame, I need lots and lots of money to feel secure, I need lots of likes on facebook, I need lots of people to agree with my view points on this forum, I need to put my two cents in every conversation of this forum to be seen, I need to attack the people that don’t agree with me on this forum, I need to name call people that don’t agree with me or judge me, then you "May" have some Conservative Minded Ego Consciousness tendencies.. Here are a few selections from google on definition of Conservative: a person who is averse to change and holds to traditional values and attitudes, typically in relation to politics, religion (and science). Apposed to rapid changes, and supports keeping traditions in society. Anyone from Red to Turquoise on the Spiral Dynamics can have some of these Conservative minded, Ego Conscious, self survival, limited perspective, closed minded behaviours. Me included! Just sharing a few thoughts, ideas and beliefs!

The Proud Boys were emboldened by Trump’s words. Then, LGBTQ couples reclaimed the group’s hashtag. (sorry, I don't know how to cut and paste the article title and pic. If someone can do that, it would be great!) https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/05/proudboys-twitter-lgbtq-takei/ Now these boys should be proud of themselves!

Sweden is ranked 40th for total "Reported" cases per countries! But Sweden has a small population of 10 million people and have 9320 cases per million. Germany, which is right in the middle of things, has 80 million plus people with only 3596 cases per million… Big, Big, difference! The real numbers that count are deaths per million !!!! Click on the link I shared and click on the top bar which has the “Deaths/1M pop”. Sweden is ranked 14th worst country with 583 deaths per million in the world, Germany is ranked 63rd worst country with only 115 deaths per million population. Don’t be fooled by the way they rank countries... You need to compare apples with apples and the only way you can do that is comparing deaths, tests and cases per million for each country! I am not saying this chart is perfect by any means, because not every country is reporting the numbers the same. The only way you can “assume” which country is being the most honest are those countries that are reporting the most test per million, which is also on the top bar. Please do not get me wrong, I live in Canada and I am not overly happy with our numbers. Canada, like Sweden, are considered in the top 10 to 15 in the world for health care and for the standard of living and we should not have these high numbers. Both our countries have small populations per sq Km and we have very few countries that boarder beside us. Both of our countries had much more time to prepare for this Virus compared to other countries. Then you need to consider what countries boarder other contries and how difficult was it to control people crossing their borders, such as Germany. Germany is surrounded by several European countries that have high death rates per million, but managed to keep there numbers low. In my opinion they have done a great job containing the spread of the Virus in their country. Agree or disagree. The numbers speak for themselves.… There are many factors that must be take into consideration to truly paint a reasonable and accurate picture , and even then it will most likely will be misleading. To become more awake and conscious one must let go of all attachments, feelings and emotions, this includes attachment to home country. Only then will you see the world with open eyes! Having said that, I visited your country back in 2016, and the people and the country-side are beautiful. Take care and stay safe!

As of yesterday, Sweden has a death rate of 583 people per million. They rank 14 worst Country for deaths per million. They have tested 164,250 per 1 million people, ranking 51 in the world for tests per million. Sweden is now entering a second wave… Canada ranks 33 for worst Country for deaths per million, has a death rate of 251 people per million, they have tested 199,951 people per million…Canada is also now entering a second wave… I would not consider these numbers very good considering they are both in the top 10 for healthy care services and in economic individual wealth… No judgement, only stating the facts from the Worldometer web page… https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Focusing on the Dantian is a 24/7 life long commitment. It is a waking meditation of Energy! This is where you become aware of your own energies within, and aware of the energies beyond the Self. It is the center where you feel and sense the textures of this reality and the people you come in contact, including the chaotic emotions and feelings of the collective, such as Trumpism for example! Just sharing thoughts, ideas and beliefs!

THE DANTIAN... Many Shamans, Eastern healers and Energy Masters have been aware of the stomach energy center for thousands of years. It is the gateway between the physical reality and the dream reality. It is the center of your energy and your beingness that connects with all other beings. It is the invisible communication center, known as intuition. It takes years of focus and awareness to really grasp the multidimensional and psychic importance this center has with this reality and the infinite Earth realities that are layered within this dream scape. Food for thought. This is just one of many links. Explore reality, leave no stone unturned! Note: I am in no way promoting the web page services, I am only pointing you towards the concept of the Dantian in this Link... http://www.jennifermillar.org/what-is-the-dantian-and-why-is-it-important

There are an infinite amount of thoughts and beliefs as to what an Ego is. Which one is right? My current and ever-expanding thoughts and beliefs of what an Ego is, is as follows; The Ego is nothing more than a limited defined conscious hard drive (For lack of a better description of words), specifically designed to focus consciousness to this combined physical/formless dream state. This dream reality that we are in has limited sensations and textures, rules and laws (such as gravity, you can’t physically walk through a cement wall, the 5 or 6 senses, etc.) that has been universally agreed upon and created by infinite conscious gestalts of thoughts, which have been created by the “All-That-Is” to explore and expand consciousness and awareness. So, what does that mean? Well my Ego hard drive allows my Higher-Self, a Gestalt of magnetic attracting thoughts and Energy, to enter the game and experience of this Earth reality, or limited bandwidth of frequencies of energy. My Higher-self decides what initial thoughts, ideas, beliefs, will be programmed into my Ego Hard Drive. It will also decide the physical living conditions, cultures, parents, abilities, and year this Earth Self will experience. Once the Ego Hard Drive has been loaded with all the programs, ta da, you awaken to this limited Collective Ego reality as you. You are then given limited freedom to create and co-create your physical reality and experiences within the collective Ego boundaries and dream state that we all share and have agreed upon. Your statement, “Many people say that the ego can never learn or change.” There is no right or wrong answer to that statement. Having said that, it is my belief that the Ego Hard Drive can expand the amount of thoughts, ideas, images, beliefs, feelings and emotions that are within. As each individual “Self” awakens and opens to higher levels of consciousness within, the more the Ego Hard Drive will respond by allowing more consciousness and room for the software programs to expand. Can you kill the Ego? My thoughts and beliefs are NO! The Ego is a limited form of consciousness that is focused in this “Timeless” physical dream state. If you were able to kill the Ego, you would no-longer experience this reality. The Ego consciousness is within consciousness, which is within consciousness etc. Consciousness can never be destroyed! Your Earth Experience can never be destroyed! Every thought, idea, image, belief, feeling and emotion lives forever within the “Timeless Absolute”, even after the illusion of your physical death has been imagined. Take what resonates, and leave behind what does not fit into your current thoughts and beliefs. You have the freedom to choose what beliefs you want to focus your consciousness on and what gets stored into your Ego Hard Drive (For lack of better words.).

Thanks for the post and for sharing! I did similar inner child work years ago that was very helpful to awakening to my deeper seeded beliefs, patterns, feelings and emotions. It was a stepping stone, amongst many, to help me awaken to the idea that we “create our own Reality”, and that this current reality that we share is an independent reality within a collective reality that we co-create together with our thoughts, ideas, imagination, beliefs, feelings and emotions. Having said that, once I started to become aware of these deep seeded beliefs, patterns, feelings and emotions, “I” started to become more conscious of a much deeper awareness. I started questioning; Who and what is an “inner child”? where did I get these thoughts, ideas and beliefs of an inner child? I see you, Who is seeing who? Where did I get the thoughts, ideas and belief that there is someone see someone? I love you, Who is loving who? Where does this love come from? what is love on a human level? Nonduality level? Etc. And I am here with you… Who is the “I” that is here with you? Who is the you? I am here with you, because I love you, I am here, where is here? Who are you? Why is there a “because”? And in being with you, I finally see you fully. Are you being with you in form, formlessness, duality, nonduality, spirit, consciousness, awareness etc? What is being? What is “With”? I finally see you fully. What is finally? Why only now? What is fully? Just sharing a few thoughts! There are no right or wrong answers. You can only find them within! Truth is always expanding! Awareness is limitless and always expanding! God’s consciousness is always expanding! There is no end! Enjoy your current limited, but expanding conscious journey!

The Oversoul Seven Trilogy, Jane Roberts.

It’s nice to see there are other folks on these forums that have an interest to dig a little deeper into consciousness and dimensional realities than just skim the surfaces of Love = God Consciousness = Nothingness, Labels…. There is so much more to explore than just obtaining a blissful state of non-duality and “One” God Consciousness. Having said that, I resonate with most of what you are saying with the exception that “nothing has no boundaries and its content is infinitely uniform and balanced resulting in a world that doesn't need to be balanced anymore and thus has the highest freedom of movement.” My understanding of Nothingness, is nothingness is nothingness! There is no world, there is no movement, there is no consciousness, there is nothing! God Consciousness is energy in action, a thought is energy in action, reality is energy in action. All consciousness, worlds, and movement exist within the All-That-Is. The All-That-Is was birthed out of the Void of Nothingness to become Something-ness. If your interested to dig deeper into the depths of consciousness, realities, dimensions, and your “Greater Self” you may be interested in the follow link. Scroll down the article to “IDENTITY, PERSONALITY, EGO AND THEIR MULTIDIMENSIONAL ASPECTS” Having said that, you may want to start from the beginning to get a better context https://engineering.purdue.edu/~andy/seth.html Take care! Good observation! I believe that is one of the main reasons why we are here in this 3D reality. We are here to awaken from our forgotten, illusory and hypnotic sleep state to our higher states of Beingness. Once awaken to our higher state of Beingness our life purpose is to consciously create and manipulate our thoughts, ideas, images, beliefs, feelings and emotions, within the boundary’s and Laws of this 3D dimensional reality, in an highly responsible, awaken, and accountable manner! Just sharing a few thoughts, ideas and beliefs!

It tells me you are to hard on your-self…. Be Gentle... Everyone has a shadow. There is nothing wrong with being a mystic, but don't let your identification with being a mystic blind you of your shadow. When you “over” identify yourself with being a mystic, SD turquoise, self importance, or even pity, and ignore and down play your shadow, that is what spiritual bypass means! Everything matters! You are an aspect of God consciousness co- creating reality in many multidimensional realities, including this Earth 3D reality using your thoughts, ideas, imagination, beliefs, feelings and emotions. God consciousness is energy in action! Your thoughts are energy in action and they create the reality you are now beholding, including your beliefs about your self and the world that you perceive around you. Having said that, be gentle with your observation of your "self". Everything is beautiful, there are no exceptions or exemptions!

You go girl! I don’t normally enter into these types of conversations, but after reading a few of your posts I would like to say that you are not a quitter. You are showing a lot of courage by staying with these conversations that at times may seem very judgemental. I will be 60 this year and I can tell you from my own experience that the path to consciousness, awakening, enlightenment, Sd yellow and above, or whatever other label you attach to, can be very difficult to achieve. I have been working on my shadow, my beliefs, thoughts, ideas, feelings, and emotions for over 20 years and can honestly say that the path to free yourself from all labels, beliefs and attachments is very long, difficult and never-ending. If I had to give one word of advice it would be “Don’t Rush the Process”. Okay, 4 words. Once you have an awakening (what some people label as an Ego death), the real work begins. The work begins by observing each thought, each idea, each mental image, belief, feeling, the rise and fall of your emotions, and then with consciousness, witness how they create your imaginary 3D reality. The biggest obstacle and trap that I have fallen numerous times into, is the trap of spiritual bypass. When I notice my self falling into this spiritual bypass trap, I notice my Ego trying to rush to a false state of Enlightenment, SD turquoise etc., or whatever label you identify with and attached to. A spiritual bypass or spiritual bypassing is a "tendency to use spiritual ideas and practices to sidestep or avoid facing unresolved emotional issues, psychological wounds, and unfinished developmental tasks". The term was introduced in the early 1980s by John Welwood, a Buddhist teacher and psychotherapist. Spiritual bypass can also be disguised with many false perception and labels such as: the attainment of being a Born-again Christian, the delusion of Self Importance, or believing you have attained Conscious Superiority, etc. Try not to fall into these traps, but if you do, it’s all part and parcel of the journey. We learn from our Mis-takes, (as in a Hollywood Mis-take) where a mis-take or “mis-action” has occurred and has been realized, but then is corrected with a newer conscious “action”. Please be gentle with your journey, don’t rush, this is not a race or competition, don’t get attached to labels and identifications. Enjoy the ups and downs, learn from your mis-takes, and most importantly, embrace your honest heart felt Love and Compassion for others and your “self”. Take care!

Check out this link. I hope it will help you on your search! https://realtalkworld.com/2018/11/16/part-6-of-seths-concepts/

Hi everyone, this a long one, with a lot said. I hope you can make out what I am trying to convey! Just to be up front, I also copied a few good quotes, or string of words from Leo’s most recent responses in the “I think Leo is triggering the insanity that is already within you” to help add to the context and intent of my “What’s Next” topic that I am sharing with you here, to help better explain some of the thoughts I sometimes have difficulty putting into words, which he says so beautifully and to the point. What I am sharing is some of my own experiences and awakenings I had on DMT almost 1.5 years ago. It has taken a long time to put my experiences into meaningful words that make sense to me, and hopefully to some potential readers. I find writing down my experiences has really helped me process my understanding of who I Am, which I find is always an ongoing experience and is always changing. So here goes! Before we get into Leo’s quotes, I will share a combination of experiences from several of my DMT trips. At the peak of one of my DMT trips, I experience nothing, I was nothing = consciousness. There was no Me. Then “I” (as in a thought “I”, for the sake of expressing the inexpressible) became aware of this huge limitless ocean of energy, no thoughts existed, just a sensation and texture of endless, boundless energy. Time did not exist. Eventually a thought transformed in, or from a Conscious (?) field of Energy. Once the thought appeared, a sudden orgasmic explosion of thoughts, ideas and imaginations occurred out of the formless field of Energy (for lack of better words) which seemed to have occurred from no-where. Love = consciousness “experienced” the All-That-Is, giving birth to everything, and everything was also imagined and was also nothing. (if that makes any sense) Am, as infinite space, imagining infinite Cosmoses within this infinite field of energy space, followed by our Universe, then galaxies, then Planets, Earth, Life on Earth, humans, Me, my family, friends, etc. I mean everything. But at the same time, Am was nothing within consciousness (difficulty to explain) No me, but everything at the same time. Everything seemed to be in a dream state. Eventually, “I”, not the Human Mind “I “, but also the Human Mind “I”, was in transition between the All-That-Is and my limited Human Mind. I felt Love, and at the same time felt alone. I was Love/awareness feeling the space of oneness, and at the same time I was this limited Human Mind with all these imagined experiences, and yet I was “Alone”, because I was aware of being “One”, simultaneously. (Don't get hung-up on the "I" please, I don't know how else to describe it) Thoughts were swirling around in this nebulous space of Love = consciousness = imagined Limited Human Mind. As I was slowly descending back into my Human Mind Consciousness, I started to question while sinking into my Human conscious Mind; Why should I bother returning to my imagined Human Mind and Body? Why “forget” most of who “I am”?...... I am One.... What’s the purpose of being a limited Human Mind and physical body? Everything is imagined, my family, friends, the pleasures and pains, the suffering and joys of duality are just a fabrication of the Mind, a huge infinite hologram imagined! It’s just a Dream! I tried several times to let my imagined limited human mind die, (an imagined psychological mind suicide, for lack of better words) to let it disappear into the empty canvas of nothingness = consciousness = Love, but to no avail. What I eventually realized is that there is no such thing as Life and Death. There is only a reduction or expansion of pockets of consciousness, within pockets of consciousness playing with pockets of limited states of Form and Formlessness, within the All-That-Is. Forgetting and un-forgetting. Focusing and narrowing consciousness away from the One consciousness. Flowing from one pocket of consciousness to another greater, lesser or equal pocket of consciousness, splitting pockets of consciousness within pocket of consciousness, expanding within and beyond pockets of consciousness of form and formless. Eventually I was aware of time, and I sensed consciousness slowly reduce its self to slip into a limited Human Mind, into the reality of form, and into my imagined body. (It seemed a long stretch of time had passed during the transition) It wasn’t until 5am (started around 9pm) when I was steady and conscious enough with the inner workings of my Mind and body connections, to be able to walk back to my room from the DMT ceremony. During the next several hours my mind swirled with thoughts, ideas and imaginations in what seemed to be a higher state of awareness. I was questioning; why am I here? What’s the point? I even imagined calling an imaginary taxi to pick me up from the imagined Ayahuasca center to take me to an imaginary desert, to bask in the imaginary sun and heat with my imaginary cold case of beer, and imagined the thought of “Just letting Go” of this imaginary dream. Expand to One! Expand to Love! Because it’s nothing but imagination, I can’t die! There is no death! There is no wife! There is no Earth! So why keep playing this imaginary game? I am One = Love = Consciousness = nothingness = Void! As I pondered my thoughts, ideas, imagination, it really started to sink-in what the implications of being an imaginary limited Mind, within a “one” conscious mind meant. It was mind boggling. I was playing with this realization, or awareness, for what seemed like a long time before falling asleep later in the day. I understood the basic theory of it from the Human Mind psychological state before doing several trips on DMT, but to witness it play it’s self out on a canvas of consciousness = nothingness (for lack of better words) as; Love = Thoughts = Energy = consciousness = = = = was sobering, but also surreal. “You don’t know, what you don’t know.” After experiencing Consciousness at a DMT level you start to become aware of the “Knowingness”, but you really won’t know the “depth” of “anything”! No One can Know the full depth of “Everything” and “Anything”, from the limited Human Conscious Mind. This is my Truth experienced! For the Next year and a half I contemplated my thoughts from a Physical Body and Human Mind state, what am I? what I am suppose to do with this new awareness, new layer of consciousness, of Me, with my imaginary Human reality, within Love = Thoughts = Energy = consciousness = Nothingness = etc. Regardless of how hard I tried to imagine being absolute Consciousness, absolute Love, absolute All-That-Is, I kept returning to this imaginary human body awareness and Human Mind consciousness. I could not escape the limited mind consciousness of ideas, imaginations within imaginations, beliefs within beliefs, feelings within feelings etc. Every morning I would wake up from my dream sleep state, and with some awareness, watched how effortlessly I slipped into my physical whole-body dream state. The transition from the sleep dream to physical dream is mind boggling and frustrating. It’s unbelievable how easy my mind consciousness slips into my perceived physical body and physical reality, but how difficult it was to reverse the sequence back to the sleep dream state, without falling into a sleep state. (if that makes any sense) The deeper I go, the more layers I find. Where do you stop? How far do you go? Having said that, let’s look at a few of Leo’s most recent thoughts, ideas, and beliefs that I believe add to the topic and with my experiences and perceptions: As long as you are in this body, you will have biases and you will not be able to love totally. Life is about limitation and selective love. It's not about total love. I prefer the word imaginary. It's not a trap it is what is. That’s what Oneness is. It is a hallucination. And you are alone. enlightened masters still have biases. Maybe they don't have ego, but they still have a mind. And the mind is full of biases. Even the body is full of biases. ABSOLUTE LOVE -- free of all biases. But there is only one thing which is capable of ABSOLUTE LOVE -- a totally selfless being. And a totally selfless being must have absolutely no form or attachment of any kind. This cannot be accomplished in human form. It can only be accomplished by the purely formless Godhead A living being is incapable of perfect Love because a living being must be attached to survival in order to be alive. Only a non-living being is capable of perfect love, which means death. if you want true lack of all bias, that's called death. That's called God. That's called Infinity. And a human is part of Infinity but not the whole of Infinity. Try to love truly unconditionally. You'll find it impossible until you die and surrender absolutely all form. Formed love is limited, finite, and conditional. The highest love is a pure abstraction. Yet it's more real than all form. Within an Infinite Mind, abstraction comes prior to manifest reality. Abstraction is highest Perfection. You can be relatively selfless, but not absolutely selfless. Only the Godhead is absolutely selfless. Not living beings who must look out for their survival. To even compare your human organism's selflessness to the Godhead's selflessness is silly. You're infinitely far away. And that's okay because you are limited. Your body can't lift a 1000-pound stone and it cannot lift its analog of love for similar reasons. Thank you, Leo, these quotes help more clearly express my experiences and thoughts, ideas, and beliefs that I have contemplated and realized in the last year or so. Your Mastery to articulated your thoughts and ideas into short, concrete statements, and phrases really help convey my thoughts and add depth on this topic from Mind, to Pen, to paper! So here we are! A very, very small microscopic limited Human Conscious Mind, imagined within the One Conscious Mind, playing and creating imagined realities within a limited sand box of consciousness infinite grains of conscious units, which can be mixed, stirred and shaped together into infinite states of diverse realities of all shapes and colors. All of this within other infinite sand boxes of consciousness, with the freedom to play, hide and seek, with thoughts, ideas, imagination, beliefs feelings and emotions, to create, expand, regress, dream, explore who and what we are from a very limited, removed conscious mind of the All-That-Is. What do I do with my imagined limited Self? What imagined self? What we? What I? What here? What purpose? What – What? What why? What do I do with my imaginary physical “self” Loop, that will have a useful meaning and purpose? What’s next from the imagined Limited Human Mind form of atoms, molecules, organs, body, thoughts, ideas, imagination, beliefs, feelings emotions etc., with all it’s imagined mental, emotional, physical, spiritual, catalyst energy aspects that have been swimming in this imaginary reality, which is Nothingness = One consciousness. “Eventually I found my self deliberating, what’s next? at an imagined Spiritual intersection”. Do I just sit with Love = Consciousness = Nothingness = imaginary Dream = =?? and that’s It? Do I Let Go of this limited Human Mind and become absorbed (for lack of better words) with the absolute Love = Consciousness = Nothingness = imaginary Dream etc.? Do I explore the Limited Human Mind personality that I am imagining, and play with all my probable personalities, probable pasts and future self’s, play with conscious layers and awareness of form and Formlessness? Play with 4th, 5th and possible 6th dimensions and multidimensional realities from a conscious Physical reality state? Do I just allow my limited human mind and physical personality to become more and more awake and conscious of Love = Consciousness = Nothingness = One = Zero = Imagined = Dream =, and keep imagining my wife, my life, and play along with my imaginary physical reality until it’s time to leave it behind? Or, Do I do all of them simultaneously? Are there any other options? What’s Next? What’s Next after you are aware of Love = Consciousness = Nothingness = One = Zero = Imagined = Dream etc., and have touched a profound depth of your imaginary “limited” human Mind dream reality? Having said that, I have experiemented with some new ideas to explore what's beyond the spiritual intersection I approached earlier, and have chosen a few paths from an infinite selection of probable paths to explore and expand my awareness. What I’m really interested in from those of you that have read this post; “has anyone else found themselves at this imagined Spiritual intersection? If so! What’s your thoughts, ideas, and beliefs of where you are, and What’s your Next, if any? What are your thoughts, ideas and beliefs of Consciousness = Nothingness, from a knowing that you are a Limited Human Conscious Mind, and that you are imagined within the All-That-Is? Is there a What’s Next? Or What? Thanks for reading the full length of the topic! An imagined student sharing thoughts, ideas, and beliefs, who is open to hearing another imagined someone share their thoughts, ideas, and beliefs with similar experiences!

There are no ‘unconscious beliefs’. There are no beliefs. There is only absolute Love, and everything perceived is absolute Love. Consciousness is all there is. We are the absolute Love. There is no We, I, you, just Love = consciousness. The All-That-Is, is, All-That-Is. We are an imagination, a dreamed-up imagination of the one consciousness of the All-That-Is. There is no separation. Everything is one, one source. You and I are subjective imagined images from Love, we are the one source of Love, there is no we, I, you! just “Consciousness”. POV, perspectives, thoughts, subconscious and beliefs are subjective abstract concepts within Love. There can only be Love, and everything thought or feeling is Love, which is Love. Love can only be Love. Nothing can touch Love, because there is nothing to touch. Love = One = 0 = Consciousness = Nothingness = ...............

It has come to my attention the topic title is not appropriate and has touched some people’s sensitive spots. I apologize for the dramatic title. Unfortunately, I am unable to change the title due to technicalities, but would like to change the titled to, “Leo’s video Feedback”. I just watched your most recent video hoping I would learn something beyond my own DMT experiences, critical thinking, other spiritual modalities and research. What I have learned was that you do have a grasp of some deeper aspects of consciousness and perspectives that differ from other conscious human mind POV. But IMHO you are still just scratching the surface of what reality is from a 3-dimensional perspective and maybe a fourth. Don’t get me wrong, I resonate with many of your perspectives that you have graciously shared in your videos and comments in the forum. Your ability to articulate and systematically discriminate thoughts, ideas and beliefs far exceed my own abilities. Having said that, I would like to see our forum members discuss the labels below in more depth, and go beyond the basics tossing around of these limited labels: God = Love Nothing = Everything You are God You are imagining everything You are me Only one Consciousness Love is the answer! Etc., etc., etc. I feel these limited labels are used to freely in a limited 3D and some basic 4D perspectives, and would like to see us dig deeper into there full potential expression. You have shared with me many profound insights and perspectives and I would like to return the favor. If you interested in exploring possibly deep aspects of reality! May I suggest you read the following books: Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul. The Nature of Personal Reality. The "Unknown" Reality Vol. 1 &2 The Nature of the Psyche: The Individual and the Nature of Mass Events Dreams, Evolution and Value Fulfillment, Vol. 1 &2 These books and perspectives are almost 50 plus years old and go much further down the rabbit hole then most of your thoughts, ideas, imaginations, beliefs and awareness than what you have shared so far. Yes, the books are old, but no one that I have listened, watched, or read comes anywhere close to the depths of reality then these books share! I don’t want to burst your bubble, but "No", you are not the most conscious human that every existed on this planet IMHO, and there are many more people that are way beyond your level of conscious understanding. I am sharing this perspective with you out of Love. Yes, it may be perceived as Tough Love, but it is still an aspect of Love to help point you into deeper levels of consciousness and awareness. As a "fellow" student on the path towards consciousness and awareness, I would like to say that yes, I have had my ass kicked many, many times with tough love. Tough Love comes from many sources. With a profound level of Love, I hope you are willing to explore other possibilities and sources of knowledge! A student sharing thoughts, ideas, and beliefs!

What is it, actually? Okay, no one can actually fully understand and fully realize another persons POV, they can only imply they understand from their own POV. Can you explain an example ‘close to home’...a belief you are aware of which you are not conscious of? No, I can't, If I am aware of my unconscious belief, consequently, will no longer be unconscious! If I were to give you an example, the example can only come from a past perceived unconscious belief that escaped my attention in the past, and was outside my field of Human Mind conscious attention at point of time, but has now been made aware of in the present moment, or in the past-future. Having said that, let’s kindly not continue with dissecting the literal and grammatical interpretations of words to describe POV’s, I am merely try to express thoughts, ideas and beliefs as a form of sharing thoughts, ideas and beliefs for people to ponder on. In all fairness, lets please allow people the opportunity to return to the original topic if they are interested. Thanks again Nahm, you do provide food for thought(s)! ✌

Thanks for sharing, I understand your POV, and that is what I am basically point to; "Limited human point of view” is not perception, it’s a belief". Whether we like it or not, we are in the Human Earth experiment, which primarily functions from our attachments to beliefs. There are beliefs that individuals are aware of at the surface level, sub conscious level, and then there are beliefs far deeper in the Ego human conscious Mind that most people are not aware of. Our beliefs have a huge influence on the Human experience and they are aspects of behaviours, feelings and emotions. These beliefs may, or may not be expressed, felt or understood fully at the individual and collective levels by some Red, Blue, orange and possibly higher SD's. You and I, and many on these forums have their own POV's of Love and Compassion from their beliefs, and we all express and understand them differently from these operational Beliefs of varying levels of awareness. Yes, “Love & compassion can’t be thought". I fully agree with you and understand this Truth! But from the EGO human conscious “Devilish” Mind, it can also be perceived and acted on unconsciously through many layers and filters of beliefs. Underneath these beliefs, Yes, everything is Love! Some people may be aware of this absolute Love, but then there are many people that are not. It is the lack of awareness of how these devilish beliefs that unknowingly are perceived, misuse and misunderstood, within the umbrella of absolute Love and Compassion that I am pointing to. Just sharing a POV .

I will have to disagree with your POV on this one. Love & compassion can be misunderstood or misused when someone is unconscious, operating from anger, fear, hate, manipulation and vengeance etc. From the absolute aspect, yes, I would have to agree with you, but I don’t think anyone has reached the absolute state and essence of Love and Compassion that I am aware of. Deep seeded unconscious thoughts, ideas, imaginations, beliefs, feelings and emotions will have a huge influence on how we humans perceive and express our feelings of Love and compassion from our limited human POV. Yes, I get the POV of love you are pointing towards, but I am trying to point towards superficial aspects of there use, comprehension and expressions.

Thank you, you are right on many levels. I have lots to learn, and that is why I am sharing. Not only to share my POVs with others, but also to receive other POVs that I may, or may not be aware of. My initial intent was to hold Leo’s feet to the fire, but also for him to wake the F up to other POVs, with some possible avenues to explore! “Karma”. I just had my own feet held to the fire to awaken. You just made me more aware that I was not coming completely from the heart, which I did try to rectify by making changes to the initial dramatic Title, but not fast, far and deep enough. I realize now that Love and Compassion can sometimes be misunderstood and misused when expressing POVs. I have seen it a lot in this forum and now see it in my own message. I still hold some of my POV’s in the topics content as valid to some degree, but in hindsight, should have been more aware of how my feelings were sabotaging the delivery of my message! Again, thanks for the feedback from the heart.

Okay Nahm, I will take your word that the way I presented my topic may be considered trolling. If that’s the way it came across than I apologize. That was not my intent. Looking back at my thoughts and feelings while watching Leo’s video I was a little disappointed with the content. It seems he is dancing around the same topics from different angles, but also from the same physical perspective using different words. I guess that is the shadow I have to accept for having expectations! My expectations were hoping Leo would really get into the textures, sensations and intricacies of conscious reality at the microscopic levels. Also looking back on my thoughts and feelings, I was triggered by some of Leo’s use of words that he had reached these great depths of awareness and consciousness about God and Love that maybe no one else has! When I hear such expressions of knowingness I get annoyed and triggered because I have listened and studied way to many gurus over the years, and it has been my experience that most of them “Don’t Know, that they Don’t Know”, when they make such similar, direct or indirect statements. Hence, the topic I wrote. I take ownership that I allowed some of my feelings and emotions to get into the message I was trying to convey. Having said that, from my POV, Leo “may” not have reached the levels of consciousness and awareness that is profoundly Earth shattering and beyond anything already spoken or awakened on Earth. I am only saying that from a place of Love. IMHO, he needs to perceive reality from different POVs that may help him to awaken to other probable realities, consciousness, awareness, and Love. Agian, IMHO. I could be completely wrong, but that is my POV, and I am only saying this from all the different experiences, perspectives I have had, done, read and observed. I am in no way better, or more advanced than anyone else here. I humbly see things differently than many of the POVs expressed here, and only offer and share my POVs to help others explore and broaden the mind. Resonate, or not resonate, it’s all part of the human conscious mind experience! DLH

I am not sure what it is you want Nahm? I thought it was clear that “IMHO” there is much more to reality than what Leo or others have shared. How is that Trolling? I "feel" you jump the gun and maybe were a little trigger happy. Why do I also get the “feeling” that a few people on this forum are taking things way to personal, and are possibly feeling a need to defend their leader? Sorry, but that’s my perception. Having said that, I also shared in the topic that there are books available that explain my POVs much deeper than I, or anyone here on these forums can explain in language that makes sense to “ME” and possibly others. That is why I am sharing. Are you really expecting me to recite and answer every question from 15 years of material that Jane Roberts and Seth accumulated on consciousness, reality and awareness? No offence, but the Seth material has been well documented and studied in numerous Universities and by many Gurus in the last 50 years. One of the main intents for this topic is to point individuals in that direction, which they may, or may not find useful. Nothing more or nothing less. In all fairness, and with Love and Compassion, read one of the books if you are interested, if not, don't. No one should be made responsible to do the work for others! So, let’s take a step back and put feelings and emotions aside and try to perceive the intent of my topic from the heart and not just cherry pick a few perceptions that I may, or may not have expressed with the utmost awareness and compassion. Respectfully A “Student” sharing thoughts, ideas, and beliefs!

I like you Meta-Man, and I know you are coming from the heart, so thanks for the link! On the other hand, let’s agree to disagree about our POVs with LOVE! I watched the video you sent and many others on youtube, now read a few of the books I have mentioned and then we can share the definition of LOVE that you and a few other people on this forum seem to throw around so freely without questioning its essence at the microscopic levels. Not saying I more conscious or aware of the many facets of Love than you are, but it seems we are perceiving and contextualizing it from different POVs.

I'm sorry you perceive it that way Nahm. Is there a possibility that you are projecting the “attempt to troll” in your own response? We see and perceive what we want to see and perceive through our own prejudices, biases, and beliefs. I am no stranger to my own prejudices, biases and beliefs, but if you feel the need to go down that path and go beyond the intent of what I am trying to share, so be it! Do as you like, and live a day long. Having said that, I will also give you the benefit of the doubt, that you are responding with nothing less than the utmost Love and Compassion!