Bauer1977

Yes..... who is asking?

It's God... it still feels like Ron on some level as well. But it's God.

More Peaceful.... it is being viewed from a different perspective, and it seems to have become more interesting as a result. It's hard to explain actually, it just is. And what is, is interesting.

That's the illusion. Ron had ego, and Ron felt like a separate entity, therefore Ron felt like he had to do something, and was doing something. Although he never really was a separate entity and was never really doing anything. It was, is and has always been God. The truth has been revealed, there is only God.

There is no who, there is only God. God is aware of God. The idea of a who is the illusion.

God is awareness.

There is no who.... "I" is God. There is only God.

Long time no speak Winterknight! I feel I have arrived, what do you think? "I" have been doing nothing for several months now.... and "I" finally comprehend the concept that Ron as the experiencer will do whatever it is that Ron feels he must do, or needs to do, feelings of which are all powered, inspired or motivated solely by God's Will. "I" watch Ron's life unfold, the thoughts and ideas he has, a long with the emotions that he feels and the experiences that he has. And although "I" is an individual perspective of Ron, it is actually God's individual perspective. The only thing left of the idea that there is an individual me, is this unique perspective that "I" has of Ron's unique experience. That's it, "I" is aware of Ron's experience, and both truly are, and always have been, God. That's it, an individual "me" therefore exists and does not exist at the same time, and there is now a complete comprehension of this truth.

Thank you sir... honestly, from this perspective "I" is already there. It's just these old ideas that keep popping up and causing confusion from time to time that's the issue now. Thanks again for your help with all this.

I was hoping you would say something like that. My focus is still on the fact that God is everything, and "I" and Ron are just servants of God, and there just needs to be a complete acceptance of what "is". There is little doubt that all of the reading and studying that I have done over the years have created certain ideas within me. A lot of that information got me to this point, so it's hard to know what still has value and what doesn't. At this point, it seems as though none of it is has any value anymore. Would you agree?

Hey Winterknight, I think I blew it. I was contemplating the fact that "I" is just an tool to absorb information which goes directly to God, as an individual perspective. And if that is the case, then the "I" does not exist either. That took me a place where I experienced non-existence. It was so objectionable to me that I immediately surfaced.... and it took me several hours to come to terms with what I had just experienced. I re-read a section in Hawkins book “I; Reality and Subjectivity”, and realized that when he was faced with the same situation, he refused that void of non-existence as the final trick of Ego. He called it the final doorway, and rejecting this trick resulted in his passing through the final doorway. I suppose I rejected it, but not at depth. What can you tell me about this?

You know, that's the exact conclusion that I had been starting to consider of late. The fact that you just confirmed it helps me a lot. Thanks again for your help Winterknight, your time and effort is appreciated as always.

Thanks, I thought you would say something like that. The whole thing felt wrong to me. More like imagination than experience. The source of my misconception is no doubt from all the literature I have read over the years regarding God Consciousness and the supposed ultimate experience of being "everything". Is all that type of thing a false narrative?

Hey Winterkight, I know I said I wouldn't likely be back, as I truly believed that once I was able to comprehend God as every "thing", as well as being the will that drives it all, I didn't think there could be anything else to discuss. But, something new has developed. I am hoping you can help me with it. I am still not "doing" anything, and my center is seemingly with the "I" as the observer at all times now. But something new has happened while doing Self-Inquiry the last couple of days. When deep within it, my center appears to be behind the "I". From my perspective the "I" appears as a beam of light (awareness) from out of nothingness directly in front of me. When looking to the side, there are dozens of other beams of awareness appearing out of nothingness as well. They are all pointing outward, they are at varying heights, but all appear to be at the same depth, which puts my perspective at a slightly greater depth within, or as, nothingness. Given my limited knowledge on the matter, this should be impossible given the fact that "I" can't be aware of "I", but of course the "I" is in front of me, so in a way "I" still isn't in the field of awareness technically speaking. And any attempts to try and center myself back at the level of "I" during Self-Inquiry have so far been unsuccessful. Is this just a matter of imagination, or is there something to it. What can you tell me about it if anything?

Thank you so much for everything Winterknight. I do not feel I need to post queries with you here any longer. "I" had a revelation last night..... "I" fully comprehend the concept that every "thing" is God. My center is now God. There are no more questions to ask or answers to find. It's all God, And "I" have now accepted that. Thanks again

The answer to both questions is God. 1 and 2 are the same question.

I agree....... and I will continue to pursue that. I just always felt I needed to have an understanding/realization of the level of God Consciousness before that could truthfully and fully occur. I now feel I have the foundation in place to find that kind of peace. Cheers

I understand your skepticism.... but here is an experience I just had.... Laying in bed, holding the idea that "everything is God, there is only God".... the body lost its shape and color, then the bed, then the end table beside the bed, then the lamp, then the walls and floor...... then the world itself. All that remained was black empty nothing ness and the awareness of that black empty nothing ness. It became so clear how everything really is an illusion. The nothing ness was no longer an experience that I can have in another state, it was here and now. This body and this reality dissolved into nothing. The concept of the illusion has never had such meaning to me as it does right now at this moment. Then the color slowly returned. And every "thing" regained its shape and structure. Then the thought to let you know appeared, and I typed this out. I have no idea how this life might play out from here. What to do or how the illusion of doing even appears to unfold. But you must admit, this is significant.

"I" was the one who resisted, but now "I" is not making that decision... "I" does not exist. The will power that "I" appeared to have is part of the illusion. Only God exists...... on every level, it was always God's will. There is no role and there is no one to consider these questions anymore. That was the point of the entire process. There is no "I" to be aware of anything or to decide anything, it's all God. It always was God. "I" just wasn't fully aware of this truth until now.

Hey Winterknight.... so with every thought and feeling I have had for the last several weeks, day and night, I have gone through the process.... "who is having this thought/feeling?.... Ron is... But Ron doesn't exist, so there is no point in keeping it in awareness." And I wipe it away. As a result I have been in a constant state of being for the most part ever since. It has been peaceful... that's for sure. But I have also not been "doing" anything. So much so that this life has come to an absolute halt. I suspect it has been part of the process. Having said that, there is a recent change. I have recently come to the realization that if everything is in fact God, all of Consciousness (the body, mind etc) as well as the awareness that is the "I" (as none of it actually exists).... it seems to me that the very act of providing resistance to the expression of these thoughts and feelings, is in fact the very thing that is keeping the sense of an individuality, as the "I", alive. Who is "I" to resist anything God is attempting to do through Ron? And what gives this "I" the ability to judge what is right or wrong? Why would "I" (an "I" that doesn't exist) try to prevent or control anything that qualifies as God's will within the illusion from happening? How can "I" even attempt to do that? "I" doesn't exist, "I" is God, it's not even a possibility. It is all God as God within God. So now when "I", an illusion with the illusion of will power ask, "who is having these thoughts or feelings?" The answer is God..... and God is the one asking, and God is also the one answering. Its all very clear now how it has all been God, perfectly scripting this process up to now, leading to this moment and this realization. Is this God Consciousness.... Thoughts?

Your awesome! Thank you for having such patience with me.... I am getting there, but I now know what to work on again for a while. I hope the negative things you sometimes deal with here never keep you from coming back and helping people like me. You really are very much appreciated.

OK, I get what your saying. If there is never a who, there is never an experience. So is the goal of Self-Inquiry then for the mind to never completely leave that place? I feel I already know the answer, but I want to see if I am on the right track or not

So if I ask you, who responds to people's questions here everyday as Winterknight?.... what is your response? I feel I am to the point where I can brush away anything in awareness as the smaller "i" or the illusion whenever I choose to. When I am doing self inquiry, its so still, it's just being. If that's the perspective to be held always, and if that's the goal, why would the body ever need to move again. What makes your body move? Is it just happening on its own accord, with you as an almost disinterested detached witness?

I can't speak for anyone else, but I am genuine with my queries.

Hmmm.... I see what you are getting at. Interesting.... But if everything is God's will, as it appears to be. Doesn't the idea to help others (which is a positive) qualify? I mean, you don't exist either, so who is responding to me, how does that work? I mean even though everything is an illusion, we still do interact here with a purpose though, don't we? Are you not a person typing here the same as me?