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Yeah but your paranoid of an oligarchy. Nothing is going to to happen. It's still gonna be a democracy.

He's neo-advaitan.

I don't think it is about power. The guy is ninth in Diablo. He's a nerd.

It is possible. But not by the character.

Thats where relativity truly shines.

What you really need to start teaching is that survival must incorporate corruption to some degree. But then the definition of corruption becomes relative. What is corruption? You tell me first and then i can tell you if we all must fall into it. Because I already know that you can't escape a certain degree of corruption. Your innocence is assaulted on birth. After that you will be tainted. After that it comes down to what degree you are corrupt.

A big distinction is to determine whether Israel directly wants ethnic cleansing. Meaning that they want to put to death any non Jews. I find this hard to fathom and I don't think it's the case. I think they retaliated based on threats to their direct survival. The Jan 7 attacks. And perhaps they have taken it too far with the retaliation...but..and let's look at this without bias.. I do not believe that they engage in wanting to ethnically cleanse other races. This is what leads to an unfair comparison to Nazi Germany and so forth.

@Topspin715 it's never too complicated to look at holistically. The problem is everyone has a dog in the fight.

I would agree with this whole heartedly. I wish there was a more holistic approach to this entire struggle here. But there never has been. Leo's response to this is simply "this is current events and this is what is happening now." To me this isn't a very holistic approach.

Well- I beg to differ. Leo is a smart guy - and the fact of the matter is everyone is blinded by bias. But his gift isn't spirituality it's being exceptionally open minded in many areas. He had an intuition for spirituality but his gift isn't there. He needed psychedelics. A spirituality gifted individual needs nothing. Perhaps just meditation

Exactly- agreed. But since he said he doesn't condone violence i wanted to see if that was truly the case.

@Twentyfirst this is not a comparison to Nazi Germany. Germany wanted world domination. Israel just wants to stop opposition which was commenced recently on Jan 7. The casualties of defending one's nation is in fact sad - but do not compare this to Nazi Germany. Israel is acting on defense. If you think otherwise than you just look to history. Israel isn't moving on other nations like Hitler did.

Figures. Your bias really shines though here. You fail to acknowledge the struggles Israel has endured and you just want to focus on the people who you wish to defend. If you guys really want to have a high level perspective perhaps redo this entire thread and make it about humanity in general. It will be much more accurate. But to demonize a specific people is very low level.

No..i want you to say you don't condone the violence on Jan 7 where Israel was attacked. Or are you too biased to say that?

I'm not going to hold a mature intelligent dialogue with you if you aren't able to hold one.

Are you OK? I recall normally you're more stable than this. You don't normally resort to name calling. I'm not going to hold an intelligent dialogue with you if you can't be mature about it and hold one with me.

But you condone the initial attack on Israel.

If you guys wanna demonize Israel just remember it's a low level perspective.

I would say because they don't have the means. Israel was able to build themselves up on the shoulders of giants. But don't think for a second they wouldn't if they had the means. What do you think their terrorist backing tried to do. It's not so silly if you think about it.

I don't know why don't you ask them.

What did you expect the founders to do when every turn they take their people are facing extermination from other nations and people. What did you expect? You should really stop bashing on Israel and look at the history. Then maybe you would have a better understanding of their perspective. When a people become paranoid of extinction they will go to any measure to survive. It's the animal in all of us. It's in you. .if you were driven to that.

Sounds good 😀

@Thought Art Oneness. All perspectives are you so to demonize other is to demonize yourself. This realization brings compassion and open mindedess.

@Javfly33 There's no "other" Other is within your consciousness right now. There is only God right now, appearing as this finite form that you are. And imagining other finite beings. So there is only one illusion of finitude. That's your current state of Consciousness as God. But if this state were to expand you would see that you aren't a human self but rather the whole of Consciousness or the Infinite, with both the finite self and other being one. You see the trick that God is playing is that with a change in state it can trick you into thinking that there are finite selves at all - and that there is you and then all these other finite selves. That's all an illusion. Why does God need that? The best way to realize this is to first realize that the self is an illusion. Leo's "what is perception" is really good for this because it breaks down how there is no subject/object by using the sponge example and how you are just one of the little holes in the sponge. But also in fact you ARE the whole sponge. All you have to do to see this is experience a shift in Consciousness. In Truth you weren't one of the holes you were the whole thing and the hole you thought you were and the other holes were both illusions.

We shouldn't have to be in an infinite state of Consciousness to be closer to Truth. But we should have at least reached it once. Otherwise we know not what we are saying. We are just repeating the words of other gurus. Would be a low level perspective 😀