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Bullshit. No way. You can't prove this first of all so don't claim it. That's a heck of a claim and why @Nivsch could no longer engage with you. You speak from emotion and emotion alone.

Because they aren't looking at it holistically. They just want to throw out current events but it's deeper than that. Israesl isn't Nazi Germany. They just want what any other current nation would want.. And there is a history to a nation that they don't consider. Not one that wants domination but one that wants freedom. Power must be exerted in certain areas to obtain that freedom.

No. They don't want endless war. They got endless war. Against them. They are simply returning the favor.

@Water by the River you are making things much more complicated. The short answer is you can only awaken once. Fool me once but twice - now that would be something...in fact, it would be redundant.

That's good of you. Well - stolen land from when - the last 70 years as you stated? Stolen land is relative. Land is no one's. It's just there for the taking. The Jews see them as a threat and therefore they are nullifying that threat. If you were treated like shit for decades or centuries you would do the same. Look at the US when we broke free from Britain. Do you think we would tolerate a threat to our land from next door? Of course not. We would take next door. That's just survival. Any nation would do the same.

In my eyes Israel is simply attempting to expunge its enemies..not grab more land. Once the threat is tamed it would not go on to conquer other nations. You again have to consider the history of the Jewish people and the persecution they endured. Then you might be able to see it from their perspective. Aggeession was their own only avenue. To keep up with the current times or be swallowed up yet again.

When someone's lands and rjgnts have been taken away for so long they become like rabid dogs. Is it right? No. But it wasn't right to enslave them either. Now - they have their own nation. And they are defending it. Whose land it once was? Well - they are there now. So it's theirs. They aren't squatting anywhere so let's just clarify that one.

Maybe you need some. The jews have had thousands of years of persecution. You can't blame the state for doing what it's doing. Discounting history would be an error here.

Squatting? Getting sick of your implicit racism. I suppose putting them in gas camps was love to you but it wasn't to me.

Careful sarge. Nothing is water under the bridge. By the way - Hitler's destruction of the jews wasn't love. Why do you think Israel is so aggressive now.

Precisely. That's what God means. But consider God may be much trickier than what you think it implies. Consider the paradox that God can create a rock too heavy for him to lift. Then you will get an idea of true authority.

The question was simple. Why does the ego buld barriers stronger than it had before after awakening. You guys just want to beat around the bush. It's simply because dying ain't fun.

Let's exclude psychedelics here. It seems this question is geared more towards natural awakening. Psychedelics simply overwhelm the ego so it has no say. You are coming at the question from a place of psychedelics- in which such states can be reached regardless of whether the ego has died before. With natural awakening the ego will not let it happen twice. But even then? No, you don't lose what you gained. Otherwise psychedelics would be pointless and awakening would be pointless.

Absolutely you can. All it takes is imagination.

The question is whether or not karma is carried from a past life into the next. But this carries a lot of assumptions. It first assumes Reincarnation. Reincarnation does exist. But does it exist in the same reality. If God dreams it is a wolf in this reality does that mean it would be a different creature in this same reality? When you are in a night dream there are many rules and things that you follow. You can go through so many trials and tribulations. But when you wake up from the dream all of it is gone. Vanished. Like dust in the wind.

Karma only exists within the dream. In a new dream- the slate is wiped clean. All is forgiven.

This is very key but it's not so much the purification that keeps the ego returning after enlightenment. It's the attachment. It's God not ready to relinquish the dream. There's more to be done. Perhaps that's purification. Perhaps it's just being more of an asshole But If it's strong enough one will come back. Purification- is actually ego. Because God has no distinction between selfishness and non-selfishessness - or good vs evil. This is because it's love for itself must be absolutely total.

This is foolish because you are not imagining that you are Incarnating into a unicorn. There are various levels and degrees to imagination. Also you have to consider that imagination is infinite- allowing you to imagine or incarnate into a finite being. You didn't imagine you incarnated into a unicorn - furthermore the unicorn would be the physical form it wouldn't be the ego. The ego would be the sense of self as the unicorn. So you are comparing the physical form of a unicorn to a sense of self. Nice try but get with the big boys if you want to talk spirituality.

The you can die but still remain in physical form. This doesn't take away that you died and became God - it just means that you retained physical form. With this retention comes the return of the ego. Of you, if you will. At this point, terrified of death because in death it loses all existence or meaning- which is ultimately the same thing. So now - it will fight agains its dismissal with everything in its power.

Are you saying the body isn't imagined?

Well the ego can die but the body can still be there. The body is being imagined at a higher level of consciousness. To dissolve that would be Masamadhi.

When you cease to think about it it dies.

Everything is mind - so yes. The body is just a firmer or higher level of consciousness not accessible to the ego system. But yes death is just something of the mind. Death is an idea, you are an idea, the body is an idea.. All of it is just a collection of ideas

Mock it if you want to. But what is enlightenment? Do you think it doesn't involve the death of the ego - or what you think you are? The 'self"? And if the body doesn't fall away then the ego mind or state of Consciousness can come back into the body again. It is death and rebirth. But to die again - now that is far more difficult. In fact - it's no longer something that needs to happen. The enlightened being goes on.