Inliytened1

If you say so.

That sounds very exalted indeed 😀 But who actually made the decision on what is a lower paradigm.

@puporing maybe..how would you know..you are a separate God Mind. Anyway - don't wish to derail...but i shall ask you to explain how souls and Reincarnation plays a role in your view on the death penalty and whether you support it or not?

Our paradigms are different then. From my direct experience it has become apparent to me that Consciousness or Awareness is God and right now God is dreaming a particular dream. Full stop. God is imagining self/other and subject/object along with all other dualities. All duality is appearance to create the illusion of a dream or a reality That's it. So there aren't any souls or repercussions of any souls coming back to repeat the same behavior again. That is all an illusion. When this dream ends another may commence or may not.

Well i think they go nowhere when the vanish from this dream because you are dreaming it right now, not them. And you aren't a soul or a self. You're the whole thing.

Souls are completely imaginary. Souls are something you as God dreamed up. Along with Jesus and Yahweh. And Mohammed. But you are the infinite God imagining all souls. Imagining everything as the Infinite, formless Mind that you are. Yeah you are Spirit and Divinity because you are Infinite. But souls is something you created. You're still stuck in religion.

this sounds colder than calling it a punishment

That depends on perspective. Why is death so much worse than life in prison without parole? Let's say your daughter was killed by a psychopath killer with no hope for rehabilitation. Would you want him to stay alive for the next 30 years or would you want him gone? He isn't doing anything but taking up taxpayers money and living and breathing and "finding God" which is a load of crap because he is a psychopath. While your daughter is dead..stolen from you in the golden years. Doesn't this bother you at all? It's ok to be human, you know. Sometimes that's OK. But eh, if you are so against the death penalty that you want us to feed him and allow him to read books for twenty years then OK. It's not humane to take a life but it was OK for him to. And it's OK to imprison him for life. It's meant to provide justice to the families. Not all families have to believe in forgiveness. Or lack of violence. It isnt higher consciousness necessarily. And if you believe it is then why is it? Please provide and include if this would include your religious beliefs because often we turn to God would want us to forgive.....but to me that would be a narrow minded notion. And if not for God than why? Because someone said so? Personally I think if you kill another human being you've crossed a line there ain't no coming back from.

It appears all employees received an email from Elon Musk to state what they did the prior week (like a weekly status report) and if they didn't respond it would be taken as their resignation. Wtf? A lot of employees are scared for their jobs but are being told by immediate supervision not to respond. And unions say they will be challenging. What kind of corporate corruption is this shit? I would tell them to kick rocks! If this is really true it's such a joke. If they want to fire them all just fire them. It just seems so messed up. I work in the corporate environment so I know how messed up it can get but this the worst of the worst. They should all just start getting their resumes ready...but it's kinda messed up that they should have to.

This isnt about your aim its about your view or your take. If you didn't want to have a horce in the race then why didn't you say so when you said you felt like Luigi should die because the CEO was some rich guy. By the way playing the survival card doesn't get you past corruption. Survival is corruption in most cases. There are very few instances where survival can be had without corruption. And those times should be cherished

I'm just giving you shit dude lighten up. You're the one who got all defensive. I asked you because I wanted your opinion not to "getcha"

Then maybe you should keep quiet about asking people on the left to question the right to see what their views are when you have no say in the matter. So yes, it scratches my itch.

What's your thoughts on what Musk is doing right now with the government? Do you think the shake up is bad? What about Trump "cuddling up to Putin" when it comes to foreign affairs?

You have a sick mind 😀

This was a rogue leftist not the democratic party. Be hard within the confines of the law. When I say soft I mean Biden and his corrupt cohorts

The previous regime was soft period. Its not just one thing. They were soft. Now...I know I didn't ask for the polar opposite..but that's what you are going to get from the majoriry of the people that don't want softness. They want the polar opposite. What would be nice is somewhere in between.

Word up. I mean he would be in prison for life and all.. so while he is rehabilitating and finding God, your loved one left the earth many years ago. All years stolen from them while the killer has those years.. But yeah, hopefully the state will say its just.

Let's see how easy it will be to forgive the guy who slaughters and rapes your wife in front of you.

Exactly. I don't think highly of the labeling that goes on here. This is supposed to be a high Consciousness forum and yet everyone wants to so quickly assume or divide everyone into sides. I think hopefully we're all beyond that. We have a whole spiritual forum about "not knowing" for Christ sake. I guess the political forum can be considered low Consciousness if everyone here identifies on a particular side. The whole point of high Consciousness is to rise above that.

The problem is taking a taking a side of liberalism or conservatism. No one is going to gain anything by taking a particular side or identifying with any side. And surely no one is going to get enlightened by it. Why does everyone have to assume that someone is liberal because they agree or disagree about a particular agenda? Why do you even jump to that? Because someone who "sides" liberal automatically has to agree with everything on the "liberal" checklist? Why do you label people like that? How do you even know he's "liberal"? Whatever that even means. I mean maybe he is but don't you think he's thought for himself on these topics? Why label him into a group because he has an opinion on a topic? That's the whole problem with politics today.

This is problematic because whether that person is still a threat or not, they are still living, breathing and growing while their victim no longer exists on this Earth. Is it morally right for them to go on while their victim is dead? But this thread isn't a debate on the death penalty itself and maybe we should redirect this back on track because I believe the post was about why this guy is being killed and not school shooters or others. So it's not a question on the death penalty itself. It's why this guy and not that guy.

I don't know about all that...that's an awful lot of reading into a person. But hey, you follow him closely from what I've seen, so you probably have a better read on him than I do. But your point on going beyond human morality is an important one - and it's one that separates an advanced society from one that is stuck in its own selfishness. But according to you he's not going beyond morality for the common unity he's doing it puff his own chest. And I don't get that vibe - i just think he's voicing his opinion. So let's watch the personal attacks whether accurate or not.

I understand that I just think if the death penalty is going to exist then I don't think the judicial system should need to be picky and choosy about it depending on the message that needs to be sent. That in itself is kind of backwards which was what @PurpleTree was pointing out. It should not be a weapon to be wielded by discretion. Either it shouldn't be used at all or it should be used equally across the board. Maybe I'm not being nuanced enough i just think the death penalty is something prior to it because it is about human life and Judges shouldn't be able to play God.

Who used democracy to play their game? And what was the game? You can't blame the government completely - it is also the people..but not just the people gaining power it's the people themselves that are allowing themselves to be fooled. In other words don't put all the blame on the oligarchs. The people have to take responsibility. And they're not all stupid. They're just blind.

If the death penalty is warranted by law then it should be enforced by the judge I'm saying that it shouldn't matter how high profile the case is. The problem i have is not with this case it's with the low profile ones (or, the school shootings, for example) that maybe the guy should be put to death but isn't. So then when they follow the law with a case like this, it stands out.