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My guess is that it would threaten their religion.

No one will care then I'm gonna take some snapshots and in 4 years message Leo - hopefully the forum will still be here. According to him it's gonna be like the second coming of Christ. Actually, no..I don't even care that much 😀

Maybe it's whatever you imagine it to be. The finite form will always suffer as it struggles to retain it's current form. The infinite has no such issue. However - the Infinite is attached to nothing. That is the cost.

Keep it up who cares what they think. They don't even exist if you aren't imagining them (meaning bringing them into existence through thought) That's what is happening you know. If you get too far into your meditation you may not like what you find.

The line between ego and God is an illusion...so when we awake sometimes the ego can be completely gone other times it's intact. It really breaks down in the end because of Oneness itself. You're in a specific state of Consciousness right now and when you awaken that state can change but whether or not the sense of self is still there - that line can get blurry because you are Awareness itself. You are all states of Consciousness. But to answer your main question yes - God seeks to undo Oneness with the dream. He is dividing and masterfully separating when losing himself inside of a dream.

Sorry I agree spirituality is liberation. I meant it's not worth suffering over stuff to begin with. But I guess you wouldn't know this if you think the whole thing is real.

Is it so much more vile or do you want to see it that way? Corruption is corruption...and it happens on both sides of the aisle. Whether we want to admit that based on the team we pick is another matter.

It's called Capitalism

@zazen@Leo Gura it's important to remember that our country needs to be structured the way it is (capitalism) for freedom. If it wasn't, then a Musk couldn't even emerge to begin with. So while you sit and throw sticks from your white tower note that the current structure of government made it possible for you to sit back in your tower and toss spitballs. So while we bash Musk we should be grateful a Musk could exist. We didn't like that a Musk couldn't exist and now that he exists we want to cry about how it's all muffled up. But in truth you have the same opportunities he does - we all do. I'll take a Musk in exchange for the ability to be a Musk.

No different than any other corporation. New management comes in they clean house to ensure their success. If you don't you are leaving holes that can be used against you later when you fail. Trump is trying to ensure success. Make no mistake he really believes he is Making America great again.. I'm not sure he will but I'm just speaking from his perspective. All people come from a place of goodness. One of Leo's episodes but it rings true here. I have to bite the bullet and say that Hitler meant well too..from his perspective. His perspective however, includes him.

I don't know the interviews with Joe Rogan just killed it for me. Him getting stoned with Rogan...besides- you're dreaming him up.

You still have the ability in this country to make as much money as you want to make - and vote for the person you want. Or even run if you want to. It's open to you if you want it. I'd say its a still a pretty good place to live. Yeah..you're still gonna be investing in corporations..but you don't have to be loyal to them.

It's not worth it. Its just a dream.

Until he can fix the bird flu im not going to worry about him. I've better things to do. A guy ninth in Diablo isn't worth it. He would have to have beaten God of War and could wield a good game of Chess before I took him seriously.

Yes. On the pain thing i wouldn't call it suffering until it becomes chronic pain. Chronic pain is a form of suffering because you're constantly dealing with it. Now whether you are suffering existentially is another matter but all of us can get frustrated with anything chronic. It's how we choose to rise above this suffering. Awakening resolves all of this.

The independents always lose in this country.

Well, to your point, either way, we evolve. Rather than taking sides all of us should look to that evolution. I like it.

Most of the times they took it by force.

Perhaps the galactic empire will prevail and Dark Lord Sidious will rule with a generous hand.

Of course. But I'd still take the latter. A benevolent monarch that bestowed his love on you to me is a slap in the face. Are we supposed to bend the knee and take his benevolence? You could say we are doing that now with Trump but the people wanted that. So you can't really argue with it.

Who they couldn't vote out. We have a vote here. You voted Trump in.

I get what you are saying But remember why the colonies revolted against Britain in the Revolutionary war. That was because of a monarch. They wanted to have their own control.

I don't know what games Leo was playing but trust me you don't want any type of monarch, benevolent or no...unless you want to go back to the dark ages.

Huh? Did anyone teach you politics. So if democracy got stronger there could be a monarch?

I thought it was because America is a democracy. There's a congress. So I guess benevolent monarchs are out.