Inliytened1

How about we ban you.

Dinosaur.. JK. You gave me my first warning before I became a mod. Love you man and keep up the good work but more importantly health and happiness. Wishing you all of it.

I have no interest in his blog. Not direct enough.

I have listened to it. And this is the point. He specifically says how blunt he was being in the video. The point is hammered home at minute 6:30

Leo's a very young teacher relatively speaking. And he came up on YouTube. The forum was a place he could just be himself. I'm pretty sure he's working on himself and we will see some changes going forward. And yes I can say this because i am like 20 years older than almost all of you here at 55. I just have a baby face. And a bit more grey than that pic which I need to update. I don't think im older than @cetus though

Then again I bring you back to why did he pull the Solpsism video?

If you want a true example of what @Joshe is trying to convey it is when @SoonHei took his life. This was a young guy, not enlightened, that took all this stuff as a belief. But he left behind a family (a new wife and young child if I recall) all because of spirituality. And no one here tried to talk him out of it. I do not place blame on any one particular person but perhaps we all failed as a community. There are others such as @WaveInTheOcean as well.

I don't think it is a matter of compassion, it is a matter of pausing and thinking things through regarding the ramifications of your statements as a public figure. I understand about the case for the minority, but the issue is not what is objective, it's about being thoughtful about whether you should be so blunt to such a mixed audience. If he stopped and thought about it long enough he would come to the same conclusion as you. But he's being lazy and that is irresponsible as you say. But he wants to get what's true out, no matter the cost. To him, that is compassion. He believes what he is doing and saying is the higher good - case and point - his own teachings on everyone has good intentions. And by the way, he's always been lazy on the forum. That's the whole problem. He thinks he has a pass to be lazy here because it's just a forum. Who cares. I am guilty of it too. Sorry about the crappy grammar my phone keyboard is jacked up but I went back and edited

It has something slightly different each time: "Inliytened1" is a prominent, long-time moderator and member on the Actualized.org Forums, known for over 12,600 posts. They are heavily engaged in discussions regarding non-duality, spiritual awakening, and topics like absolute solipsism, often sharing insights under their signature phrase: Wisdom. Truth. Love. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Yeah....better watch out or you will go to hell.

Christians are sitting tight for their messiah why can't we? They say the second coming of Christ is just over the horizon. Maybe he'll be accompanied by an Alien, omnipresent Mind.

Does it really matter what the percentages are? If even one individual can be saved by a less lax position on suicide then it's worth it. The problem is it's not 100 percent one way or the other. So there is a dilemma for guys like Leo who teach over you tube. The audience could be anyone. Notice with his retreat there is heavy screening. You can't do that here so you should be much more careful in what you put out since you can't regulate the audience. But ask yourself why he doesn’t just accept anyone for his retreat but he will teach his deepest stuff to anyone. Well..until a certain video was pulled. So he gets it... It's a matter of keeping to that standard.

Another awakened person can usually intuit it. Leo is a fascinating example though because there is no way he could have known to teach some of the stuff without being awake..it would seem impossible to me. But this whole more awake stuff is silly. When you and your buddy wake up from your respective dreams in the morning do you say to each other..i am more awake than you!! No.you both have awoken from your dreams.

That is not really the essence of the issue the issue is the immature behavior and pompous, arrogant attitude. But i don't want to beat a dead horse i think he's been raked over the coals enough. Time to move on But awakening really is not the issue and I will say this - there are others out there, albeit rather few relatively speaking, but most fly under the radar. But one could be your next door neighbor and you would never know.

Leo decided to take the solipsism video down this should be treated no differently.

I would have to agree with @Joshe here..the 1 percent who maybe have such immense permanent suffering are going to still do it even if we try to talk them out of it. But the ones who might be on the fence with temporary suffering that will pass - which is the majority - need to hear not to do it and why not to do it..not that people have a right to do it. This is a very complicated issue and difficult issue but as a spiritual teacher there needs to be this moral responsibility. Its for the same reason he took the solipsism video down.

An interesting realization is that everyone is here based on the guy in the videos..who is imaginary (and i don't mean from the Absolute perspective)

Ooh was that @Flowerfaeiry in there?

Regadless of what it means from the Absolute perspective, life should be cherished. If you take your life you have to understand it's very selfish because it does not consider others who love you and how it will affect them. And it also does not consider that your current perspective may change and it would be something you would have regretted later. But I do understand that sometimes the pain and suffering of the consequences one's actions or of other things that happen out of our control can become unbearable. But there is help available to get you back right again. It's never the answer.

Of course. The dream works becsuse of the sense of distinction between self and other. That is a dual state of consciousnes. When those collapse into a non-dual state there is insanity. Especially if you are realizing no other but not no self. Other colkapses into self which cannot be.

LOL. Hope those sports cars have 4 wheel drive. Seems like with all that wealth maybe the people of Greenland should pay the 300 billion.

I miss that guy he was hilarious.

The 300 billion is coming from gulf countries.

The funny thing is we spend so much time here saying its not about being better. Or smarter. It is what it is. Reality i mean. A more expected response from one who is God realized - who is in the public eye - would be - to tell the story of their awakening and what they discovered to be true through direct experience (mysticism) whether someone wants to believe there is any truth to it is irrelevant. Or whether they think it is "correct" or not is irrelevant. Put the stuff and the wisdom out there if you want to, as a framework for others to find it for themselves. But childish games are unnecessary.

I wasn't disputing this. This is just immaturity. There is no "most" awakened being there is just the awakened and the asleep. If you think this then you aren't awake. You're just being foolish. That isn't an insult it's just what it is. So I'm just saying that after you awaken you wouldn't say "this is the most accurate picture of reality I've found" So you shouldn't expect him to make statements like this. You should expect better of him than to proclaim "I am the best! I am more conscious than you". But nothing surprises me anymore. And, enlightened individuals shouldn't he held in a box as to their level of maturity. They can still act like egotistical children. Though I would expect more from them.