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Yeah ill have another watch. I love the guy interviewing him.

I mean...look..I get it. Its not like they are wrong. I don't doubt a Jim Newman is enlightened. I just think the no you stuff is way overplayed where it does turn things into a belief system. And people that come aboard will jump aboard if you know what I mean. I just find it very dangerous.

Exactly the irony haha. Yes I've brought it up to her and we accept that we are different in certain regards but one thing we find common ground on is that God exists. She is very into Jesus so I dont push the subject. Its so ingrained- religion that is - for some people that breaking them away from it is impossible. Yeah I would have liked to find someone like minded but it wasnt in the cards. Like I said its not too big a deal. Ill go to church with her if she wants. I grew up with a Jewish background but im open to all things.

Yes. Whether there are Absolutes or not don't really matter on a personal level. Thank you Joseph. It took me a long time to realize this.

Yes those are great points. Also we must be careful not to push anything on someone. I have a Christian girlfriend and its very difficult to discuss this stuff with her but we make it work. I would never push anything on her. The stuff is out there if someone wants it. But finding Leo and his videos are a goldmine if someone takes advantage of it. The funny thing about Christians though is how they subtly try to push it on you haha

Someone can tell you the gate is invisible all day but until your mind realizes it it will be a gate. And so the whole problem here is that if you say to a very green spiritual person that they are already enlightened guess what? They will think they're enlightened. Its not rocket science. But you can see the danger here.

Frame it how you wish but of course everything is already the case. It doesn't mean you know it beforehand.

No its not that at all. This is more of what the neo-advaitans want to feed you. It is the realization of no self period. It is not realizing what is already the case because you do not know the self is an illusion until you do. So this is foolishness

Who is this?

This video is a joke and I've heard it before.

@Sincerity I think for @Carl-Richard he is very triggered by the concept of solipsism. Its understandable given how twisted it is. But that's just him. He gets very bent out of shape as soon as you speak the word.

I just want you to be happy. I have found that when you are so awakened things become too mundane for you and it is difficult to survive that way. Just be happy

Well since @Carl-Richard didn't bless us wirh his brilliance i will explain why the shared dream does not work. it doesnt work because there would have to be someone to oversee it. To supervise it. To make the connections. Way too much trouble. Its much easier for God to just be a singular mind and imagine everything. Its no less real.

@Carl-Richard nothing from you on the shared dream theory? Are you even an idealist? Meaning..I don't want to label but do you believe consciousness is fundamental

Right. Separate consciousnessnes. So think about it. If it's consciousness how could God make a shared dream. It would not be logically possible.

The forum @Nahm set up.

yes i get it do you want a prize? Shall I doordash you some pizza? You are absolutely right. I just hope that you realized it for yourself and not from some external source. I know that you didn't. The problem i have with you guys is your flexibility. You become so one sided its becomes very difficult to even conduct a decent conversation. That's why being on Phil's forum is like talking to a bunch of robots. As I said..embrace the ego. What the fuck else is there while your mortal. You wanna sit here and play God yet you still have to shit in the morning.

We agree although I would state that the first thing to dissolve for me was the self. And I understand where you are coming from as well. See the Jim Newman video posted here. Hes awakened but the problem with it is others can take this on as a belief without directly dying. As he did. Same goes for you by the way. Listen to it.. Anyway - the God dreaming is important from a metaphysical and ontological standpoint. The understanding of reality is fundamental. So, while you claim enlightenment you do nothing to explain or set up a metaphysical framework from which to work. Enlightenment does not come without an understanding of reality as a whole. And here science must come into play. The typical neo-advatain however completely dismisses science. Did Einstein? Should you? I would beckon that you should not.

Yes I see that. And i have come to the conclusion that everyone has their own Truth. Do you not see how silly it would be for me to tell you that awakening was Absolute in the same thread where I am stating that I am alone as God? Its silly. I get it. I can tell you that for me it was the Truth. For you, you have yours. But..I will not stop teaching it. Because of stories like @Sincerity

I don't know then. Leo says a million hours of meditation wouldn't make up for him taking psychedelics to awaken. A lot of it comes down to genetics.

If you had multiple consciousnesses you would end up with sovereign entities each in their own reality. That's where the infinity of Gods video came in.

Maybe you haven't dissolved the self. A key part of meditation is self inquiry. There will be a moment when you realize that you - the self- is a thought. In that moment is enlightenment. So what type of meditation have you been doing? Did you incorporate self inquiry?

Yes. By waking up. You can literally wake up from this thing we call life. Now...will most people? No. But then again most people won't even sit down to do meditation. Actual meditation not using an app or some other crap. And even then it seems most people do not possess the proper genetics for awakening.

This is a pertinent question in your investigation. To assume she exists is just that. An assumption. Do not confuse the questioning of "other" with "self".

The only way both can be true is pertaining to the Inifnity of Gods video by Leo. Which does shed light. Other sovereign Gods can exist infinitely. But you are completely sovereign in your own right.