Inliytened1

Yes that's the whole issue. Good is for self.

Well if reality is Absolutely relative, which it is, then really Good here is what's best for society as a whole meaning not just the US but the whole world. Problem with guys like Musk and Trump is Good is for the US, which they have made their identity. And even then Good for the US will first benefit the largest aspects of their own identity, which is their ego.

@Leo Gura seems like he runs company's like a dictator too. Thats top of Orange. My previous company before I started my own business was filled with these kind of egomaniacs.

Excellent.

Spiral dynamics seems limited in its ability to actually gage a person on an individual level. Yes its supposed to account for that, but it doesn't here. I think his strong need to do good should place him at a higher level, especially considering his intellect. He's more complex than Trump with regards to his intellect and his ability to come off as a good guy. Trump doesn't have that skillset. Yet, his need for power seems to contradict or override this, somewhat negating it. This is a problem, yet if the society is able to experience increased good after all is said and done, then we'll, there is something to that too.

What stage would you place him in on the spiral. This need for power should definitely drive him down a notch, while his need to do good and his intellect and other skills allow him to excel in carrying this out along with his successes in business. Yet the ego aspect you elude to seems to drive his level on the spiral down since you feel he is doing this out of selfishness and the need to exalt him first.

I think i wanna puke. This guy has just spent the last 30 minutes glorifying himself and Musk Dems were kicked out for booing

You have to start somewhere though and it's better than people dying in the interrum. But yes if it's a ceasefire that's one sided it could be indication of worse things to come so I think it has to be in good faith. If it's not in good faith it could crumble again later.

Can't believe he went to the "I was saved by God to save this country" card. Oh wait..I can believe it

Well, did he forget about the Armed forces then? A draft would be a long ways away.

It's not a real question. I'm not sure what he's up to..but he would never start out with "I'm not politically educated". Maybe his gf stole his phone. Weird stuff.

Amazing. But this isn't self inquiry. Self inquiry would be discovering what it itself is..self referencing.

Are you OK?

It's the story of the Emperor's new clothes. Remember that one?

He's one of those intelligent fools i was talking about.

@PurpleTree I like his optimism but a lot will depend on the US.

This guy is making me fall assleep.

I'm surprised Leo would back someone from academia like that. Most of them are still stuck in rationalism.

Where is the backstory does he provide that? As to why he is stating what he is stating.

He just wants the deal and he wants wealth for this country because he made this country a part or his identity. So that makes the narcissist wealthy too. He wants the deal. He doesn't want world dominance.

i hear you. I think most can be saved and rehabilitated. Just presented an alternative POV to the always higher exalted POV that's portrayed here.

Report it and capture the post and let us know. We will review. But it's an open forum. We don't want it to be an echo chamber.

Omg. @PurpleTree he's kissing...the javelin comment? Come on. I better get some props for this.

A poker game is a good metaphor. But I prefer Chess. Trump doesn't know how to play Chess, nor would he understand the game, so that's why he used the card game metaphor.

blaming him for the war? Yeah this guy is a joke. Can't even say he's right wing media. Someone paid him lol..