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Very nice. Take time to integrate stuff and then hit us up again. But yeah I know in the moment you can literally be experiencing God. I experienced God on this very forum live years ago. Take time to integrate everything and then give us a trip report and your experience. The live experience is like no other though and if you are awakening now so be it. I don't expect an actual report because you are already awake 🙃

Love it Sauron.

Provide some context.

@Tristan12. i believe there is help via ketamine treatments under strict doctor's supervision if it gets dire enough. This could awaken you and also resolve the depression.

If such a thing were to happen we could talk impeachment but we aren't there yet.

Wait are we really entertaining this? I mean the price of eggs has skyrocketed but are we really scared that the current president will cut off freedom of speech? Musk is a moron and now I would truly hate to drive a Tesla. I'm so glad I didn't buy one. But guys...this ain't Nazi Germany. If you think it is you may as well join the dudes vandalizing Tesla dealerships.

In his own mind do you not feel he values the constitution?

At some point they will shut down everything. It's our job to see that they don't. And who is "they?" anyway. I guess be more specific if you want a specific answer.

I could imagine. The deepest stuff will only be appreciated by the few.

The problem is I think your audience is probably dying now because your initial attraction was your personal development videos. Better come out with that book 😀 To me your the most influential thinker of our time. Perhaps ever. And your way ahead of your time. That is both your greatest asset and your greatest downfall.

Did you? You've been to the edge - confronted your deepest fears in the spirit of spiritual growth. And you made it. We all know that spiritual work is not for the faint of heart and it's dangerous. @Tristan12That said- if you are inherently suicidal and suicidal tendencies are driving you to do this then seek professional help - this work should come from the desire to understand reality. Not from a place where you already want to kill yourself.

It's not going to really shape their politics. A lot of politics is based on immediate survival and not looking at things holistically. Of course, most voters out there lack a lot more than an epistemic foundation. Most of them don't even know what the word means. Thats the deeper problem. Trump voters are predominantly orange - which - yes, if you had an epistemic and spiritual foundation you would probably not be so stuck in orange. But you can have shades of Orange and be awakened. Orange isn't always a bad thing when survival is at stake.

@Tristan12 awakening should liberate you from all the illusions of this world. So that you don't take things so seriously and you fall in love with existence itself. Yeah, sometimes it can hurt really bad, and it's not so easy to do this when survival is at stake and there is so much pain and suffering.. But that's OK. All things must pass and there are plenty of good times too. And you can't appreciate the good without some bad. In the end, you know that you are God and it's just a dream. Take solace in that. And now go back into life and make the most of it. Enjoy it even through the hard times and the suffering. The suffering is spiritual growth.

I think Putin had a say he's just playing games. And Trump better bring himself down a notch if he thinks he can control him. It's all about control.

@Loveeee @Leo Gura Healing doesn't have to come from psychedelics. It's about manipulating the dream. Manipulating the dream is very tricky and complex and cannot involve the ego's selfish desires. It's the same as putting a million dollars into your bank account. That's what makes it tricky. But paradoxically you are at the same time God and so you are capable of it. But the issue is you yourself as God are creating the health issues as you create this dream. So going against is near impossible. You are dreaming the entire thing and then putting yourself into the dream in order to live it. Counteracting this would be very difficult without awakening and then changing the course of the dream. I've only got as far as awakening and altering my physical body. I lost 15 poinds in one night during one of my awakenings.

Think of it this way..he has way way more ambition than the average joe- and I'm sure he had some financing in the beginning. He is a visionary when it comes to technology - you can't take that away from him. Most of us have just enough ambition to make breakfast. We may have had the same insights but maybe we just didn't care. Because money and wealth weren't that important to us. Or we didnt possess greatness. But Musk's ambition - what was the reasoning behind it? Was it to help society - was it greatness? or was it to help himself? Well..it wasnt greatness...At least that's the argument. He's interesting because he was such a visionary when it came to tech, but because of his mindset, in government his true colors are really coming alive. His selfishness and need for power.

Yes that's the whole issue. Good is for self.

Well if reality is Absolutely relative, which it is, then really Good here is what's best for society as a whole meaning not just the US but the whole world. Problem with guys like Musk and Trump is Good is for the US, which they have made their identity. And even then Good for the US will first benefit the largest aspects of their own identity, which is their ego.

@Leo Gura seems like he runs company's like a dictator too. Thats top of Orange. My previous company before I started my own business was filled with these kind of egomaniacs.

Excellent.

Spiral dynamics seems limited in its ability to actually gage a person on an individual level. Yes its supposed to account for that, but it doesn't here. I think his strong need to do good should place him at a higher level, especially considering his intellect. He's more complex than Trump with regards to his intellect and his ability to come off as a good guy. Trump doesn't have that skillset. Yet, his need for power seems to contradict or override this, somewhat negating it. This is a problem, yet if the society is able to experience increased good after all is said and done, then we'll, there is something to that too.

What stage would you place him in on the spiral. This need for power should definitely drive him down a notch, while his need to do good and his intellect and other skills allow him to excel in carrying this out along with his successes in business. Yet the ego aspect you elude to seems to drive his level on the spiral down since you feel he is doing this out of selfishness and the need to exalt him first.

I think i wanna puke. This guy has just spent the last 30 minutes glorifying himself and Musk Dems were kicked out for booing

You have to start somewhere though and it's better than people dying in the interrum. But yes if it's a ceasefire that's one sided it could be indication of worse things to come so I think it has to be in good faith. If it's not in good faith it could crumble again later.

Can't believe he went to the "I was saved by God to save this country" card. Oh wait..I can believe it