Inliytened1

Been there done that.

Well that's true. But it means you should entertain all possibilities until you discover whats true. Yes I noticed some holes in his proofs..like you pointed out. But he admits that beforehand. It also means by your own logic that solipsism shouldn't be dismissed either.

What i was saying is that take Leo's logical proofs of God. His video prior to that was about past philosophers and their proofs of God. But none of them had actually awoken. He gave his proofs and honestly they were spot on and can actually lead to awakening but were not meant to actually prove God. It's just that the logic, if you pay attention to it with an open mind, actually POINTS there. It points to it but it isn't it nor can it take you there. So proof is very limited. When you say that you can logically point to the earth being flat and you tell me when I look around and see it's flat then that logically proves the earth is flat, that doesn't really point to that logically at all. So you're making a mockery of it.

You're missing the point.

Actually you just see what's in front of you or behind. If I stand on a hill I wouldn't see flat. You don't even see an earth.

Haha..i could tell you anything but would it be a process of logical deduction? Anyway..Well proof when it comes to God is more for entertainment purposes. The real proof is in the pudding 🍮 aka awakening.

You also didn't get into reality being Awareness. Or Consciousness. If you did then you could also make a similar logical proof for Solpsism. Again. Sequel.....

@Carl-Richard if you take @Leo Gura's logical proof of Oneness and then apply it to Consciousness - I don't recall him getting into reality or God being Consciousness..but if reality is Consciousness..then you can actually come to this via a logical proof.

I don't think Trump will have enough time to fulfill his agenda. Luckily. We need to ensure the proper democrat is in place. I do like Pritzker.

Pritzker said it perfectly. This isn't about crime for Trump this is about power and crushing his political rivals. But who suffers in the end. Crime sucks in Chicago but I don't want soldiers outside my house either.

You should release a more advanced sequel that introduces paradox. Paradox is still part of Absolute Logic. The Divine Logic of God.

That's true. You definitely would have confused people lol.

@Cathy92506 the very first thing in your spiritual training should have been: don't take any training/teaching/talk as a belief. Find what is true in your own direct experience. Use ancient spiritual practices would be my advice but find out for yourself. By the way your training isn't all wrong but you are getting bits and pieces like if you read the Bible and believed it. Find out for yourself.

Thanks for making me look back at this. I talked with Leo about it and his definition is basically like being in some alternate reality not being in this reality. The sense of self is still there. My definition with context to this thread was depersonalization. So it really depends on what your definition of insanity is relative to the dialogie. To me the epitome of being crazy is not knowing who the hell you are. But then again this happens to patients with dementia. Although it's slightly different because they just disappear. So if insanity means he's just not in this reality but another one with other rules then fine. But if crazy is becoming depersonalized there really can't be a lack of sense of self. Because when the self falls away you awaken. But to me his version of insanity you can just take a psychedelic for and go into an alternate reality. Or heck just dream at night. Although my dreams seem to be other versions of this same reality.

Seems better today. @UpperMaster yeah it totally blew.

It's gonna be Pritzker vs Trump

Chicago is next..where i live. This is getting interesting!

What makes anyone an authority over anything? Certifications? Degrees? Accreditations. Affirmations by peers? Ok..well then if those things are an authority isn't it you who has to place your trust in them. Where is a religious pastor an authority to tell you Jesus is real? How ahout a scientist that tells you the earth is round? We actually have to be very careful here because there are many here who make bold claims without specifying not to take it as a belief but to use direct experience to discover whats true for yourself. Otherwise this becomes another religion or even science. Because not everything can be proven via mathematical formula. Such as that there is no self, or God for example. So if these things can't be proven then what good would a certification do. This just means you completed a class conducted by other peers that you have taken as an authority. In the end when it comes to spirituality you have to be your own authority but don't even believe me on that part or take my word for it. Conduct your own investigation.

That's not entirely correct. Gods properties doesn't include that is Infinite. It IS Infinite. There is a difference and that difference is between the level of concept and Being.

@Carl-Richard @Natasha Tori MaruYou're not going to win against @Breakingthewall hes as stubborn as it gets. Sorry you found out so late.

Don't get a degree unless you want it for yourself. It's not necessarily required to be "successful". What did you end up doing?

In our everyday life we really don't think of things being nothing. We live in the dream in which there are atoms and electrons. So that's what I am made of. Atoms. However, should I probe deep enough or awaken i can realize that I can zoom into my hand forever. But we don't go about our normal day with this in mind otherwise it would really make things difficult to function. On that note if I probed deep enough I would probe myself out of existence. The ego doesn't want this and really has a disdain for nothingness. It desperately wants to be something.

@Elliot what say you?

Haha awesome

We shouldn't smile on anyone's death although I would smile with you when his power has been relinquished.