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You know if you are enlightened. It just is. The only grey area would be your ego trying to dispute it.

I believe he stated he is working on a book. Regardless...in what context do you believe that would take him to the next level? It really depends on what your definition of the next level is.

@Leo Gura indeed engaging in a rant like that would only hinder your own development as well as others listening I can see you are becoming more conscious even in the last few months.

@Leo Gura Keep up the great work it is greatly appreciated. The thing most do not undetstand is that Leo didn't make all of these teachings up..they have been here for thousands of years and you can become conscious of the Truth for yourself. Leo cannot show you this only you can see it for yourself. Leo just has the gift of being able to take all of these teachings and bring them to life for us with his videos..and I'm sure this gift takes hours on hours of work, thought, and preparation. So when those come who wish to spout something other than the truth we must bring down the hand of wisdom for the good of us all so that the innocent ones are not deceived or robbed of what the Truth that they may otherwise come to see, is. That is all Leo is doing. This forum is not about Leo. It is about truth and i applaud him for doing what is necessary.

@EvilAngel jesus was enlightened and when you become enlightened it is usually after some degree of suffering but also you must not be grounded in a particular paradigm or belief. You must be as ego free as possible. So yes its possible. Whether this guy was just spouting crap is also possible. If he was truly enlightened you would be able to tell after spending some time with him.

@SoonHei Hello brother. Add in self inquiry and existence inquiry. In your direct experience try to vanquish the materialist paradigm and you will see it come to pass. Continue to practice the do nothing method, but since thoughts must come, make them about self inquiry and meta physics. Contemplate the source of reality and existence. Work and build your intuition. One must have a powerful intuition in order to break thru to enlightenment because intuition will lead to becoming consciousness of your true self. Force it not. Remember it will reveal itself only when you are ready. But to be ready is not to think about being ready. It must happen when its ready to happen. Good luck on your journey brother and remember enlightenment does not yield wisdom but wisdom does yield enlightenment.

Preface: You will not truly grasp this unless you are awakened and you're ego is fighting for survival...and yes you can be enlightened and still have an ego. I don't give a fuck what anyone says about that. Until you are dead you have an ego. So in my preface I've already answered my own question. Or have i? Therein lies the strange loop. And here it is: Is our enlightenment simply taking consciousness to it's limits. What if there is something beyond consciousness itself? What if we just found a satisfying answer to why is there something out of nothing? And if a tree falls with no one there does it make a sound? (Does an object exist without a perceiver) What if the object does exist but its not the answer of the universe is consciousness itself but there is something outside of consciousness itself but we can't grasp it because we are consciousness. The only time i knew this not to be true was when i experienced infinity and enlightenent in my direct experience. When I'm back in my ego this question remains. (You can say i just answered my own question but did i? I can't bring the certainty back unless i have another mystical experience. So now i doubt that consciousness itself is all there is. But then i think to myself how can there be anything else but nothing and or something so it has to be true. I'm not suggesting the materialist paradigm here..thats long gone. Im suggesting that we just came up with "an answer" because we took it to the limit. And the limit is enlightenment itself. But what if there is something outside of consciousness? Is this just my ego or is this the strange loop itself? This is a rhetorical question because all of you guys are consciousness itself..including leo and myself so therefore there is nothing BUT enlightenent and consciousness...as far as we know!!! So it has to be true...but what if its not? Did i answer my own question?

Thanks for the share dude.

too funny - we need some of him waving his hands around and then looking at his hands too, saying "Look at the beauty of reality" LOL

@Joseph Maynor It's definitely a journey we must travel alone.

Thanks for hearing me out guys - Some may disagree but in truth I actually believe this is indeed just another illusion of the ego but it still pops up for me from time to time. It's the ego's attempt to move you away from doing consciousness work. I interpret it as an indication that i need to ground myself deeper into consciousness work in order to deepen my enlightenment. Interestingly this question seems to disappear when I am actively doing the consciousness work - i.e. Listening to one of Leo's great videos, or doing mediation, reading enlightenment books, self inquiry, etc. Even though one can have an enlightenment experience, once you are back in the ego you are still vulnerable to deception. It can be especially bad when you are experiencing ego backlash, and if while meditating you are not getting the direct mystical experiences that you got before. I just remind myself that I can still enjoy meditation and that it's still essential even after having an enlightenment experience. It's work that we must do for the rest of our lives. It is great to always continue to inquire regardless.

Very cool video thanks

As Leo mentioned this does exist and i doubt it not. As a former atheist and materialist I personally am deeply enlightened and during my direct experience of the absolute i experienced infinite intelligence. However this is different from the records of which you speak. But in experiencing this i was freed of the chains of materialism and atheism and therefore do not dismiss anything mystical or paranormal. Therefore tapping into the records must be possible. But i bid anyone who has accessed the records in their direct experience to come hither and tell of it.

Interesting...In one perspective you can see where christianity got corrupted because if it is in fact hinting at non-dualism than a discovery of this by the reader would undermine the entire concept of the religion itself (that Jesus was the son of God and the one and only true God and would take your sins for you) Because in truth everything is one...we are all God in our true form - and that as our true selves we are pure...any one of us can become enlightened just like Jesus was. Perhaps that is where things got twisted somewhere with religion.

I'm currently reading The End of Your World by Adyashanti and it's amazing so far.

@How to be wise The answer was stated by Adyashanti in his book "The End of your World" Once you become fully awakened, there is no where else to go from there except back into the dream. From there you make it the best dream you can actually make it. So yeah, you are right, but you are also wrong. We cannot escape the ego until we escape this humanly flesh. But notice, the ego is not all bad and we might as well make the best sand castle ever! We can still approach the dream differently than those who do not yet know it is a dream. We can approach it from the lens of pure consciousness and non-duality. From a position of unconditional love.

Yes i believe it is a great release of things that we hold inside or repress, sometimes for years and even decades. Men tend to repress things much more than women who wear their emotions on their sleeves. That's why crying is so healthy for the man because he needs to be in touch with his feminine side in order to grow. Becoming in touch with this side of himself he is able to move towards non-duality and if you are looking at it from the perspective of spiral dynamics, he is able to elevate into Turquoise.

Guys don't you see the problem? It can't be put into words - We can keep going round and round and round with talk and it won't grasp IT. Even saying IT isn't grasping IT. Once you are conscious of this you will become enlightened. He found it, I can tell - so he is on his way to becoming fully enlightened if not already there. Once there, though, as Adyashanti said in his book "The End of Your World" once you become fully awakened you realize there is nothing else to do but go back into the dream. That's where we must remain until we unzip and step out of our false selves for good.

@Viking what makes you think its OCD and not generalized anxiety disorder ? Do you have obsessions and compulsions or just obsessions?

@How to be wise to understand infinity is to understand that in fact there has to exist the possibility that both can be in alignment. But also to expand on Leo's point there is a stage of enlightenment in which the formless is fused back with the formed. At this stage you still pursue your life purpose but you pursue it through the lens of non-duality. It can be, but it may not be the way you imagine in it now.

@SoonHei yes brother you have it. Now have you been able to transcend and actually become the present within your direct experience yet? It is really something special when that happens. Language and concepts of it can only go so far and then you must leave those things behind and transcend. Actualize and be the strange loop. Have you reached that yet? I know you were trying the dark room?

This band is so awesome i am able to achieve mystical experiences while listening to them. If any of you are from the states you have probably heard of Rush. I don't know if any of them were enlightened but their music is pure brilliance and it would be a shame that they weren't. Their lyrics incorporate science and spirituality in such a wonderful harmony i encourage you check them out. There is a channel with all their albums and lyrics as well. If there are any Rush fans out there lemme know!

@TheAvatarState Yea awesome lyrics. Totally agree guys - Hemispheres is my favorite too especially la villa strangiato! But all there stuff is pretty awesome! I also like 2112 a lot!@cetus56 I will check out Dream Theater; i think i've actually heard of them. @ground Yeah I know - I usually do 30 minutes of the Do nothing or self inquiry/observation techniques with no music and then at time I will do 30 minutes with music if I feel like just blissing out

I'm currently reading The End of Your World by Adyashanti and it's amazing so far.

Thanks guys i will check these out.