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@abrakamowse i think that was a different one but yeah..we were coming from a place of Love but he wasn't open minded to anything and that's fine this stuff is delicate and cant be pushed on anyone. As you probably know It can't be communicated only pointed to.

@abrakamowse It was more of us trying to help this guy Lister find Truth, he was trying to push his religion on us, so it wasn't really non-duality vs non-duality. There is only one Absolute Truth, so in Truth there is no such thing as Non-Duality War.

@David Hammond ok but if it takes 49 minutes i'm fucking you up "homie" all in good fun

@David Hammond yes i want to see what reality is...please please!

@David Hammond "If I tell you you will make it into a belief" OMG man you are too funny. So how much is this product? Or did you say it's donations?

@David Hammond LOL, I'll give you this, you are a good salesman But a little light on the substance of what Enlightenment is...maybe that's what you read in a book somewhere

@David Hammond So what actually happened when you did it? Not " i just became Permanently awoke" - i mean can you provide some details as to what happened?

@David Hammond Cuz that's how you can tell you are a farce. You wouldn't be pushing this on people if you were actually enlightened. Do you want to answer the question about what your definition of permanent awakening is, and what you became directly conscious of?

@David Hammond No thanks, I'm already enlightened. If you are honestly coming form a good place in trying to help people that's good. People are not always what they appear, but you appear to be unauthentic. So please describe to us, if you don't mind, what your definition of permanent enlightenment is and what happened to you specifically? I'll be happy to share mine.

@David Hammond They would be conscious of humility. You didn't see Jesus or Gandhi going around bragging or boasting did you?

@David Hammond Well at least you knew the difference there. So what's your definition of Permanent Awakening then? If you have a good answer you might convince me you are not a Devil.

@abrakamowse Check the locked post from yesterday, it was Epic.

@David Hammond It was a joke....just that fact that you asked "Whats wrong with Boasting" shows me that you are not Awakened and have no idea what you are talking about. But it's not worth my time honestly. I just hope no one buys into your BS.

@David Hammond We're happy for you David.

Careful guys - we don't want yet another Non-duality war here... Frankly I'm too tired from the one yesterday to have another one If he says he's enlightened just take him at his word - it's not worth it frankly guys.

@zeroISinfinity Fear nothing, surrender the ego and just let go my friend.

@zeroISinfinity huh? what you smokin' Zero I want some!

@zeroISinfinity you always were God and the Unicorn simultaneously.

@Serotoninluv ? yup

@7thLetter Boy you seem to have him all figured out

@7thLetter I truly believe that the person who sits, does nothing, and contemplates for the rest of his life will be ahead (in terms of personal development) of the person who sits a few times a day, works on his business, and has a social life. Yes in the big picture you are correct (once the basics are taken care of) because those other things will not give you true inner fulfillment. But of course it's a bit more nuanced than that. For example If you have a Yellow or Turquoise business, for example, your business can be helping all of humanity to evolve, and I think that's what Leo is doing. So I think we'll have him for a while.

@Truth Addict ❤️

@Shin

@Truth Addict Well here's some guidance: "A mystical experience is nice, but it does not count as enlightenment, because it's a memory." It's not just NICE - it IS enlightenment. The memory of becoming the Absolute is not the same thing as Becoming the Absolute - the memory is the map pointing to the territory. That's a huge distinction. Becoming the Absolute will make you directly conscious of the Absolute. That's what you need. But the tricky thing is it happens when it wants to. With me my ego was blindsided because when i started doing self inquiry and the Do Nothing/No Mind method - and doing this deeply it happened within a month of meditation - no joke - i was sobbing tears telling Leo about it. He said it was a lifetime in the making, and not all people have to meditate for 20 years for it to happen. But i think it was because my ego was completely blindsided, combined with the fact that the question of "If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around, does it make a sound, (or in other words, how can something actually exist without a perceiver?) that always bothered me - it broke my mind because I was looking at it from the Materialist Paradigm, the culture in which we were raised. So it can depend on how spiritually gifted a person is, radical open mindedness (which you have covered), but also the ability to jump between perspectives - loosen your own identity so to speak; don't be so stuck to any one particular idealogy about yourself or anything else. ...Again it happens when it happens....when the time is right in YOUR life. But Self Inquiry was what really knocked it home for me.

@Truth Addict Your name kinda tells me that "Hit me with a stick, slap me in the face, punch me in the balls, whatever" Well suffering is a way to accomplish it, so you're not far off with your suggestions. But maybe we should just send Shin your way? In all seriousness though that's awesome that you have an open mind - i can definitely message you about my path. Everyone's path is probably going to be a little different of course.