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@Shaun That's doesn't have to be true unless you believe it to be. But this is why most people do not want to put in the work to discover the highest Truth. It's easier to believe there is a physical world made of atoms and that one day we will discover where the big bang came from. And God is a bearded dude in the sky. That's so much more convenient for the ego is it not? Even to know that this all a dream is too much right? That its all mind stuff. Because mind stuff is not made of anything. So you see everything about Truth is radical and sounds insane. That's why so few people ever discover it - which answers one of the original questions of the thread.

@Shaun that's God not the ego. Solipsism of the ego is not being discussed here. You are misunderstanding. When you awaken as God you also are conscious of God's perspective. It is Oneness. No one is saying an individual ego is all there is.

@Shaun the Truth is very radical. When you become consciousness of Absolute Oneness yes you will want to throw up. That is part of the Dark Night of the Soul. But that passes and with higher consciousness you come to see the beauty in all perspectives. In the perspective of the ego. And you can exist perfectly fine - in fact happier - in duality after that. There is no longer a fear of death. I understand your point completely - but Truth is Truth. Can you stomach it?

@Nahm all form is imagination. What's real and isn't real is still imagination - mind stuff.

@Joshe also to answer the original question is that all form is illusion. God is formless and nothingness. So any form is illusion.

@tedens its because it is itself. It has no where to go.

that's right! You must die for that! The finite can never reach outside to grasp the infinite! It requires a mystical shift from inside (the part) to the outside (the whole)

@Joshe God is infinite yes - so much so to the point where you are literally all there is. You're completely alone - there are no other people. Therefore when you Awaken you discover that the whole time you were the only one there the whole time to Awaken! It's a mind bending paradox for sure but thats how it must be.

You will truly know when you become conscious that you made it it up. That, my friend, is your certification.

@Aakash you are referring to Gods perspecive. You can become directly conscious of it. You are trying to label it as form because it is form. It is God's formed perspective. The Absolute in its purest form has no form. It is pure Being. But it bursts into form in order to be itself as it has nowhere to go. The formless is what we typically refer to as the Absolute but it is actually both. It is imagination as well as the absence of imagination. By that i mean every possible thing one can imagine without actually imagining it. The Absolute Infinity of Infinity. Bam!

@Jed Vassallo that's what happened to me except i was just doing self inquiry. I didn't have any idea what i was getting into - i just had an open mind. That said - you can still do the same. Just have an open mind and when meditating - quiet the mind and just say "hey, let's see where this takes me". Don't think about anything. (Don't overthink). It's thinking that screws us as the ego. Also one thing people miss is Love. Love is powerful enough to awaken someone. So when meditating and/or taking pyschedelics, let Love fill you up, but don't think. Also do not fear surrendering. When you get a full blast of the Absolute sometimes it is simply too much for a mere mortal. Its an awesome force that is simply too much..it will pour into you but you won't let it because it's just too powerful..you will shake and scream uncontrollably. Thats OK. Because you will be in a state of consciousnes a thousand times higher than normal and that could last for days even weeks with realizations coming and going. Other times you will just be there. No force. Just calm. Non-dual state where death of the ego just happened without any need to surrender. It was just instantaneous. So either way there is nothing to fear. You will not be able to stop it as the ego even if you wanted to.

@mandyjw Lol...not an airhead at all you just know that you are God

@SoonHei love it.

@tedens from the Divine's point of view its One. You are alone and i am in your imagination. This can be shocking and radical when you become directly conscious of it. But from the relative you are tricking yourself into thinking their are fingers. Or dualities

@Aakash you of all people should know that there are no paradigms or stages in non-duality. Those are dualities.

So much mental masturbation in this thread.

@Aakash i love you man so do i don't know why you are being so ornery unless your not happy within yourself...i didn't say total enlightenment i said pure Being becoming total leaving itself. No more Aakash. You shouldn't judge other's enlightenment worry about yourself.

It is you imagining yourself out of existence. The form being extracted from formlessness Pure Bliss.

When you feel it is the collapse into Being - that's why i call it Being. It is definitely not false anything. When it becomes total its enlightenment.

@Aakash call it whatever you want. Its what i described.

@Pouya Kundalini energy - which i call Being - is real. It is a blissful, dissolving/tingling type sensation. When this becomes Total the ego collapses leaving pure Being. For some the flood gates may open all at once - for others - different areas, or chakras, can open one at a time. So yes.

@Keyhole he'll know. Because he won't be him anymore @Jkris there are different Absolutes/realizations. Mine happened in this order in different awakenings. That you are pure awareness and not a human. That reality is Absolutely infinite and Absolute Love and Intelligence. The physical world / materialist paradigm will melt away before your eyes. Complete understanding of reality. That you are emptiness..nothingness and groundless (leads to dark night of the soul) That everything is One. That you are alone. That all of this is in your Mind. That you are God.

@Mikael89 then your ego was just deluding you. You'll know the difference between that and the Absolute when it happens because you will stop knowing.

@Mikael89 it isn't temporary - even one non-dual state will change you. I like you bro and i don't mean this with any disrespect but obviously you haven't had an awakening yet. When you do you will be on the floor crying and shouting "its infinite..its infinite..its Infinite" over and over and over. You will bliss out for days on end and your mind will open. Discovering you are God is really something. You shouldn't underestimate it.

@Mikael89 that's right. It is pure potential in it's formless form. But you are form. You are the illusion. So when we say consciousness is elevated we are talking about God seeing through his own illusion. Seeing through the form and thus collapsing it leaving only pure potential.