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@Unjigorjigor yes - until one awakens the statement You are God can be misleading. One must be careful not to take it as a belief. When one awakens that have had a mystical shift in consciousness from the part to the whole (from the finger to the hand). So they are conscious that they are being the finger and the whole hand simultaneously. (Non-dual awareness). But they are also conscious that from their current perspective they are the finger. And until one awakens all they are conscious of is the finger.

@DLH nicely said. But they are nothing before bursting into form. They exist as nothing. Nothing includes everything as raw potential Electromagnetic energy and all of that is form. It is imaginary. The kicker is everything is still nothing.

@Derek White you're on the right track - you seem to be open minded and not clinging to any beliefs nor taking these teachings as a belief. Those are some of the biggest traps and obstacles in this work. Seems like you get it man.

This is fun but don't forget the deeper message in that video......

Non-dual wars are against forum guidelines and you guys are beating a dead horse already. This same topic has been going round for a while now so let's just let everyone have their own path. Its all relative here.

@VeganAwake you do realize that by using your own logic you are using "spiritual ego" right now? "Awakening and Enlightenment is completely misunderstood on this thread?" You are trying to change or correct something that is already perfect ?

@SerotoninluvThat's a great point. @Erixoon50 it's important to note that chasing the idea of a mystical experience can actually be counter productive to actual Being or mysticism itself. It has to happen on it's own, and over trying, over thinking, and "over seeking" can counterintuitively move you farther from Truth. Truth is hidden in plain sight and it is said to find Truth one must no longer seek.

@V-8 Mysticsm = Infinity

You won't come across it. Because you are in the realm of the relative - or form - or thought. When i speak of mysticism or the Absolute i can only point to it from my finite vantage point. Because to be it, i must cease to be. That is dying before you die - which is a mystical experience. (Again i am still pointing to itl No one can show that to you. Nor can language take you there. I'm merely trying to point you in the direction. Meditation is still the relative - it is thought. Meditation itself is not the Absolute in the Absolute sense. (It is a part but not the whole) But through meditation one can dissolve the self. It is merely a tool. The Absolute itself transcends meditation, as it does all that is finite. That is what that quote truly means.

That is a misunderstanding of @Adyashanti if he said that. It means it is the ultimate Me experience - meaning me with a capital M, AKA the Absolute. It is the dissolution of the illusory small me. So yes you want to get rid of all the small illusory me stories - and transcending the illusion is the way. Mysticism is that way. It cannot be reached through logic or rationality. Your point about meditation i must also clarify. Meditation itself is within time, yes- but it is tool that can shift consciousness via mysticism to the timeless or the becoming of the present moment. It seems like you are not properly grasping these quotes.

The trip may have been showing you that you don't have consciousness in the Absolute sense - you ARE consciousness. And consciousness is pure void. The terror may have resulted from the ego not wanting to surrender to Truth.

@OmniYoga all is consciousness - but form is impermanent as it never really was there in the first place. It is just the formless taking shape as form. The formless (pure consciousness) is eternal. It cannot be broken, killed, or escaped because it is already nothing. As for enlightenment, the idea of enlightenment is part of form. It is a concept in your mind ?? When all concept and thought dissolve only actuality remains. Actual enlightenment is pure consciousness/actuality itself.

@Jacobsrw agreed...just adding that pure being is a mystical state. Mystical states can be reached via meditation or pyschedelics, yoga etc. Or just spontaneously if one is that gifted.

Awakening is a miracle. You haven't experienced it directly yet so you cannot conceive of what it means to awaken another part of yourself. It is not ego.

This is hogwash, otherwise you wouldn't be listening to his videos every week and commenting on how great they were.. Agreed there. Desire comes from the heart. It is passion. It comes from love. Many awakened find their life purpose is to help awaken others. This, from the Absolute perspective, stems from Absolute Love. This is because in dividing itself, God ultimately wishes to reunite all of its parts in total unity. God has no one but itself to share itself with, and that is its ultimate gift to itself.

@Bryanbrax i liked the episodes i watched so far - thanks for the recommendations.

@LfcCharlie4 Awesome post btw and I'm really happy for ya on your awakenings - have a great new year my friend!!

@V-8I don't think anyone is bothered by your quotes - i think the issue is that you have been asked as to whether you have had mystical, frozen, divine, non-dual states of consciousness in which your sentient being collapses into the Absolute and the you dissolves, and you have either dodged the question or said that you had not had such an awakening. Thus, as others here have pointed out - when you quote others and then also put their quotes into your own words, it is a clear display that you have taken on the Absolute as a belief, or dogma. And this is a trap which will keep you from ever reaching mystical states of consciousness and grasping Truth directly via Being. Also, by taking the words of the awakened as Truth, without your own direct experience of Truth, your posts of direct quotes come off as very ambiguous, obscure, and open to interpretation - because of your inability to add proper context due to lack of direct experience. So pointing these items out it is for the benefit of both you and others on the path who may not be at a level of consciousness necessary to properly interpret the quotes. Hope that helps. Hope you have a happy new year as well ?

Yes non-duality contains duality within it. Duality and non-duality is itself a duality that must collapse. So if he stated that, it is inaccurate. Just like what he said about meditation. You are right in being wary of someone who had admitted he is not awake regurgitating quotes of others. Inaccuracies , even with the best of intentions, do need to be pointed out when spotted, for the benefit of all. It seemed to me his quote non-duality is not enlightenment (i don't remember if it was a direct quote from someone) was talking with abstract wording of the relative vs the Absolute but who knows. Ultimately they are one though.

He's just parroting others. But basically to me it means that an understanding of non-duality is still concept, not actuality. And actuality / Being is the Absolute.

Haha..nice. I'm trying the eggnog and whiskey. I know you said southern comfort but i had to deal with what i had. And i gotta say...hits the spot.

We love you. Well at least i do. Is the eggnog in hand?

Nailed it! :)❤❤?

Consciousness is infinite. It is Infinity. It expands and contracts in infinite directions. Intelligence is a facet of consciousness.

It can be if you take it on as a belief without a direct experience of Truth. (A mystical experience)