Inliytened1

He's you teaching yourself

@Dylan Page it isn't his. It just Is.

@DrewNows i immediately thought the same. Roosevelt. A great quote.

I don't think anyone stated that Love for your child was not Love. But its only a part of the whole. Absolute or Unconditonal Love is exactly what it implies. If a gang of individuals broke into your home, raped you, and murdered your child could you love them? One must move past the ego for that.

@Peo its the real deal. You had a glimpse of the Absolute which raised your consciousness. Keep going. You are spiritually gifted so do not think it has to take years for everyone.

@mandyjw of course. Fear is deeply rooted in uncertainty, which ultimately is the fear of death of the self. It's perfectly normal. One can overcome it though spiritual practice which will ultimately lead to the discovery that you are God. This, as has been stated before, comes with a slow increase in consciousness after multiple awakening experiences. When you have the ultimate highest realization of Oneness. Where the form and the formless become identical to you. You will be fully conscious that you cannot die. That you have complete certainty because it is you that created this whole thing. You are infinity itself. You are the dreamer dreaming this dream. You are the creator and there is nothing left to fear. Fear is a duality and it will collapse when you become conscious of this. It will take time. Take time to meditate and this will come to pass. You already have the gift. I can intuit that.

@Peo indeed you are NOT deluded. Do not let your ego come in there and wreak havoc. Well done sir! Have you had a mystical experience yet?

@tedens that would be a hell of a thing

@whoareyou didn't think so. Because you can't answer simple questions.

@whoareyou no..you thought there is this moment where OMG i am actually enlightened happens! Because it's a fantasy in your mind. Have you had any direct mystical experiences and if so what did they reveal? I'm asking another legit question too. And you failed to answer my last.

@whoareyou if you can't see that by now you are blind.

Let me ask you this. Can you master your emotions and take emotions out of the equation and just Be in meditation for an hour a day? Free of expectation? Can you do that?

@whoareyou that's not what you were saying. You were implying that earlier experiences compared to latter ones were not enlightenment. I am saying they all cause shifts in consciousness. So no shift is greater than another.

@whoareyou one thing to add though..the difference is you never come back down the same. So when you have the higher realizations your consciousness shifts. So the later shifts that bring you to liberation were the result or combination of the earlier shifts. Thats why they are all One and Enlightenment is One thing. Hope that makes sense.

@tedens we can have our own perspective. That is the. beauty. I give each deep experience/realization equal value as i have experienced it directly.

@whoareyou yes there is a point where that shift happens. Your right.

@whoareyou There isn't this one moment when all of a sudden as you put it 'actual enlightenment" happens. There is no such thing. Its a slow expansion of consciousness through becoming the Absolute.

@Pure Imagination that's your Ego talking you out of spirituality. The last thing it wants to do is die !! Hahah. Fight back

@tedens and i totally get what they are saying. Im in a state of non-dual awareness now that i wasn't in before my last realization. I can see everything and everyone as One, in my mind and me. I didn't have that consciousness before the last one..which still took time to integrate. And i can also be the dualistic perspective. I can shift my consciousness between both and its wonderful. And im still deepening the non-dual awareness because I'm still in duality more than ide like. So there are levels. But the part is still the whole. So via mystical experience for example if you have the realization that the self is an illision and that you are awareness and then become conscious that reality is a Mind..you at the same time, will be conscious that oh shit, i am also a hollogram! That can be extremely profound and is a part of enlightenment itself. To say its just a mere experience i do not think does it enough justice..but that's just my perspective. Those were some of the first early realizations i had..not just in concept but as revealed to me as the Absolute after ego collapse into Being.

Ill start a separate thread on those. You can make your own decisions after that on whether you consider just one or all realizations and deep non-dual awareness are enlightenment. But in my perspective just one of these is so powerful that you honestly won't care about the difference anymore.

@Enlightenment and yes that's just it....for me and for what i would deem is the path for most people is it is a process. God will not reveal all realizations at once...its way too much for a mortal to handle and you will probably go insane...that's how powerful this stuff is. So i would not diminish a particular mystical experience. Thats all I'm saying. If you want to say you are not fully enlightened until you have had all realizations that's fine. But if that's the case what are all realizations? Before i tell you mine i would like whoareyou to answer since he is such an expert at permanent awakening ")

Truth is prior to proof

@whoareyou isn't that your perspective? If you say its absolute truth you are trapping yourself because that's an illusion. That's what was trying to get you to see.

As its been said here before reality is a paradox so its both simultaneously. Its hard for us to wrap our finite minds around it because we can't wrap our minds around infinity! But it is both. Duality/relativity - free will is relative to your perspective. Non-duality/Absolute - just pure Being / Isness - God in purest form..the formless.

@Umar_uk fair enough