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Guys let's back up a bit. You can become conscious that the wave is both not the ocean and the ocean simultaneously. That is Oneness. Oneness divides itself so that distinctions may be made. And you can view the wave as separate from the ocean. But simultaneously it is still the ocean. Oneness is an Absolute that you can become directly conscious of when awakening What is being missed here is that the wave or the world created by brahman - when it negates itself it collapses back into itself - collapses back into Brahman. Therefore it always was Brahman even as it was being only world (or the wave if you use the wave/ocean analogy which is a good one) The Vendantic perspective seems to not close the Oneness gap in some weird way because when Brahman creates the world it then splits it off as something separate that now is no longer Brahman. Again becoming the Absolute will reveal that all is One so the the world, while separate is still Brahman and upon collapse will extract itself from Brahman leaving only Brahman. It is splitting hairs but its an important realization to make. Because Oneness is always Oneness even while it is dividing itself.

Two steps forward one step back. You don't need to destroy your ego you just need a good solid mystical experience of becoming God. Then consciousness expands and you discover you are God and there is no where for you to go. You are this whole thing. Your body and ego are no more you than your TV stand.

@abrakamowse that is awesome to hear.

@Dylan Page its not handwaving at all..your just not conscious of this yet. Without duality there would be just isness or pure potential. You wouldn't exist right now! You exist because you as form contrast against everything else. Thats what makes you something. It sounds like you want there to just be Being itself..but without that there wouldn't be a world or a Dylan Page at all!

@Dylan Page something needs something to contrast itself against in order to be something. That is duality. Non-duality is just isness. Yes suffering only exists because there is non-suffering. Really think about it and you'll get it.

@Dylan Page hell doesn't exist unless there is a heaven and vice versa. See how this works?

@Dylan Page in order to discover that it's heaven.

@Dylan Page your dreaming up this whole thing. But you can't see this until you wake up.

@Dylan Page until you Awaken. And if you're response is what if i don't ever awaken? Well you will ultimately because there is no where for you to go. You are yourself. You are God.

@Dylan Page it's only real to you. .Suffering vs not suffering are dualities. They don't exist in the realm of the Absolute. So when you judge God you are judging from your relative perspective. You can keep coming back to it's real but that is only because it's real to you in your perspective.

@Dylan Page To me it is suffering that can ultimately lead to God realization. It did for me. God has a grand design. God wishes to rediscover itself over and over to infinity. Once you awaken you understand the infinite love and nature of God. It is itself - nowhere to go. It can only virtually escape itself by tricking itself into a limited egoic form..any form will ultimately suffer because it wants to maintain it's current form. But this cannot be sustained infinitely. Through this God can experience itself and know itself through infinite possibilities. And ultimately there is a bigger picture the ego cannot see - precisely by design. And this is liberation.

@Dylan Page who is determining the life is terrible. Only the relative. It can just as easily be wonderful to you. It has no meaning when dualities collapse. Terrible vs wonderful - dualities.

@Maya_0 yes but remember an unawakened ego is still unconscious. It can be a hell to the ego - that's a feature. That's what relativity is. I don't think anyone is disputing that. Relative vs Absolute. Awakening is becoming the Absolute so now you are conscious of both the relative and the Absolute.

Most doctors don't understand OCD at all. Medication will help though, if one cannot function.

@Commodent you know for sure when there is no longer a you to know. You know for sure when you stop knowing.

@Paul92 your ego is twisting non-duality into darkness. In truth it is the Absolute. It is love and it is perfection. The Absolute has no opposites. It is pure isness. You have made huge growth by understanding that duality is part of non-duality. It is within it, and it is beautiful. Now put it all together as One and see the beauty in non-duality.

@d0ornokey realize that the thoughts aren't you because you still believe the thoughts are you and its filling you with guilt. The thought only has meaning because you give it meaning. Take away its meaning and you take back your power.

Its been explained many times here do not take Truth as a belief. Don't take anyones word for it. BECOME IT.

@Christian Jackson no prob. Go out there with the scientists and see if you can discover where the Big Bang came from. May the force be with you. Also maybe study Quantum mechanics and see how even Einstein came to realize that the nature of reality is mystical. Even the founding fathers of Quantum Mechanics realized this because they were visionaries. Some may have went on to become mystics.

@Shaun God is both duality and non-duality. Form and formlessness... The form is that which does the posting. That is the dualistic egoic mind. But that egoic dualistic mind is but one possible idea in the giant Mind of God. These ideas in Gods mind are also God then too. But God is also pure formlessness. Every possible idea without being thought. So in order to know itself it imagines itself. It has no where else to go as it is itself. And so there you are! You are God tricking himself into thinking you are Shaun.

@Christian Jackson this is tricky stuff. One can exist, not exist and also be both simultaneously that is the paradox. First let's remember the substance of consciousness is nothing. The physical world is imagination or illusion. It is relative to how you look at it. If you look at Conrad as the part - little Conrad - that's what you have. If you take God's perspective, the whole or Absolute..you have pure isness or pure Being/Potential. And you can also notice that they are One. The relative and Absolute are One. If only One thing exists then it IS itself. At the level of isness existence and non-existence are indistinguishable. So the answer to what is God? It is itself.

@GreenWoods your welcome but when it happens you won't be thinking about a whole lot but you will be blissing out and crapping your pants simultaneously

@GreenWoods not in my experience or i wouldnt be here. And i have had some very powerful mystical experiences where after the kundalini becomes total a powerful force - all of infinity - just fills you and you will shake uncontrollably - kind of like tremors. Because the mortal cannot contain Infinity. And remember all of this including you is imagination. The physical body and world is an illusion..it's just an idea.

@Onecirrus first off great question. Keep in mind that God is Love. It has no oppistite.. Evil only happens/exists when one isn't conscious they are God. For all of humanity to awaken is for God to awaken himself fully by awakening all of his parts.

@GreenWoods yes when Kundalini becomes so strong the ego collapses and dissolves leaving only Being. I call Kundalini Being itself.