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Exactly. Their words, including yours and mine, will be relative. They are form. Form is limited, relative and partial. It is part of the Absolute. The Absolute can never be captured via its part. You can't capture yourself with your own hands because your hands are already yourself. You just ARE yourself.

Yes basically one will have non-dual awareness but they should emrace the character that they find themselves in. Just be conscious about it. Be the selfless self. There is no need to be on autopilot. What you are doing there is ego is sneaking in the back door and trying to act like its formless when it's still form. I believe @purerogue spoke of it earlier. An experience of samadhi is mystical - it is becoming being or the formless. Once this happens enough times (dying before you die) you have non-dual awareness. But you still embrace the imaginary self that you currently are (or appear to be). Because that's what it means to be form.

I wanna chime in here with some thoughts..lots of wisdom in the video but I didn't personally learn anything from it I didn't already know. God can play as form - that's actually what it's doing. Now once you experience Samadhi you experience your true nature is God. Form is but a character it plays to experience what's its like to play that role. Its not your true nature. That said, as it says in the video, one can play in this role (play in duality) if one wishes and develop the character. For remember as form they are taking the perspective of the character. That's the point of being form. God wears the mask of the character simply to be the character. God creates all of reality simply to marvel at its creation and experience its own creation. Unfortunately the cost is that this character is a self - it is selfish. In its goal for survival it will seek..seek pleasure, seek materials, seek approval. All of this directly contradicts Gods true nature - which is a selflessness and egoless nature. Now once one becomes the selfless one (samadhi) they do ultimately return to the self. That is, until "physical death". Until the physical death of the character. But now, conscious of their true nature (awakened), they no longer identify as the character - yet they also are still in the form of the character. They see through the lens of the character. But they are conscious the character is imaginary. Its paradoxical. As it should be. So what now? Well, they can then choose to play in duality as the video states. They can choose to develop the fictional character and enjoy duality for that is the point of imagination and creation. But in doing so the character, should he be conscious, should become a selfless self. They must become the paradox. To exist as a self but still be selfless. I call it the selfless self. This is the conscious aspect of the self as stated in the video. Filter out the selfish aspects of the ego. But we have a problem. A direct contradiction. When you drill down to the heart of the matter, and come face to face with it - to survive as a self is a direct contradiction to selflessness. To survive at all is still to seek in some way. Example - maybe before awakening you went to the gym to seek big muscles. Or maybe you sought to impress girls. But what if you stopped seeking anything and just went to the gym for yourself - to be healthy so you don't fall over and die from a heart attack. Notice i said for yourself - because being healthy is STILL seeking. Your seeking to survive!!! You see - to forgoe the character completely is literally to die as a self. You cannot escape it. To be a self is a direct contradiction to your true nature. But perhaps that's a feature and not random? Anyway thats why the video ends asking what do you have left? There needs to be a give and take here or you might as well lay down and die as a self. This is not what God had in mind when it decided to experience itself as form - although it is fine with either. Nay, i say to rather strive, as this character you are playing, to be the selfless self. There will always be some form of survival here but one can do it as consciously as possible. Duality is part of being God. That's why in the video it talks about a conscious world and what the world would be like if all were awoke. For example, going back to the fitness example, as my characters perspective (which i am in) i still enjoy going to the gym now - but it is not to seek big muscles. It is not to seek to have a certain look to impress or to attract girls. It is simply to be healthy and feel healthy and happy as the self. That is still a form of seeking - again to survive period is - but it is conscious seeking. That is how it should be approached in all aspects of reality.

For this it is feasible to know but you really need an awakening or a mystical experience into Infinity. The realization that reality or God is infinity by becoming Infinity. It can't be grasped with the mind really. Thats because infinity is already nothing. It has nowhere to go to escape itself. It's unlimited. We can't really grasp what it means for something to be unlimited because we ourselves (more accurately the characters that are being played) are limited form. The finger can't point back at the finger. But when you experience samadhi or the formless the realization will come but as Infinity itself. Being

Yes that's correct. There really is just pure consciousness and you're true nature is that you ARE consciousness itself. There is just the appearance of a perceiver (a sectioned out space of consciousness that then believes it is conscious hehe) that is created by consciousness. It is consciousness imagining there is a perceiver so that it can perceive itself from that "perspective" which it has created. Reality is just a collection of these perspectives. But as this perceiver you can notice the clue that there is just consciousness because everything is held there before it can exist.

Love. Infinity is so singular and fundamental that it doesn't even have a way to know itself without creating separation - because it is fundamentally prior to knowing. Thus, to know itself and realize itself is to fall in love with itself. So ultimately, Love.

One should take care not to confuse this with not existing or non-existance. That could lead to a lack of embrace. Rather it exists as imaginary. Just like it also exists as formlessness - nothing. (It's ultimately One of course) Of course the topic of acceptance is for another talk, but I am pointing out that one can realize it for what it is and then embrace it for what it is. One can choose not to embrace it if one chooses, but that shouldn't come from lack of understanding of Truth.

Divinity is Infinity.

@zeroISinfinity indeed. Evil and suffering are illusory and imaginary, as is all form. Its why there is much damn evil in this world.

God separates itself in order to re-realize itself. It starts out as separate as possible and then moves closer to reuniting. The farther it is from being one with itself the more evil it is and the more it suffers. Suffering is the separation. The more aligned, the less, until it ultimately becomes one with itself and all evil and suffering dissolve, revealing that it was just the illusion of separation.

Now go ride that Ox! :)??

@inFlow :)?❤

We've hit the limitations of language and of the mind. There is only consciousness or Infinity. But it is actual nothing. Actual nothing is not anything you can think of with the mind, for that is still something. It still exists, but it is actual nothing. You can not conceive of it because you ARE it.

That sounds like Absolute Love. I will try it ! )❤?

Merry Christmas, happy hannukah! Enjoy a few drinky poos haha. ❤❤❤

Everything (duality) appears from nothing. Nothing includes everything within it. Thus, everything is nothing. Form is formlessness.

You seemed to think there was still a body. I was trying to explain that there is nothing. This right here is nothing. There is nothing happening here.

Too much ego / survival and not enough consciousness. Thats where our society is today. Mostly Orange. It's going to be a long time until our society evolves beyond orange as a whole and into higher stages of consciousness. But ultimately it will happen. As for some tangible things we can do now - ideally if we could awaken more people (or at least open them up to the idea) the collective will slowly shift from orange to green to yellow (and actually to awaken is to become a mystic so there is a foot in turquoise.) As to how to do that I don't know - most people are close minded to spirituality and cling to their own identity and the materialist paradigm. And at orange they are still not at the stage where they think of the collective good. Obviously this isn't going to happen over night. What are some more practical steps we could take to increase the consciousness of the collective in your opinion?

The very fabric of reality is Love. Love , consciousness and nothingness are synonymous. Divinity is synonymous. That's why if you ever become consciousness itself (you already are, but by becoming directly conscious of it) you will become Bliss/Love/Divinity.

@Nahm :)❤ @VeganAwake if taken all the way - there is only this - consciousness. All of reality is a story - a story being imagined by consciousness. And what is consciousness? It's nothing but this nothing exists. This is You with a capital Y. This is God.

All is relative in this realm :)??

There's not even a body There is only this! I.e consciousness. Consciousness is imagining, i.e. telling a story of a @VeganAwake "who" has a body and is a person. But yeah the first step is to realize you as this entity behind the eyes does not exist. ??

Yes it just depends on what you call awakening or eniightenment. A traditional definition is one who has become the formless and returned to form. One who has become directly conscious that they were pure consciousness. Becoming directly conscious that they are pure consciousness is the same as saying they became pure consciousness. Pure consciousness is Being / Absolute Infinity / isness etc. There are many words for the Absolute. All words can only point to it because it is nothing. Not the word nothing, or what you imagine nothing to be in your mind - all of that is still something - but actual nothing. Actual nothing cannot be imagined or thought.