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You yourself are a concept in the Mind of God. You are both real and illusion simultaneously. So to say concept is false is only half true - or true based on perspective.

I love that quote that is awesome.

@RendHeaven its coming full circle that duality is non-duality and is identical to enlightenment or formlessness. Thats what he calls it.

@Aakash stop..breathe..love. yes you are right. No one is disputing that both duality and non-duality are perfect. Just don't be cocky about it or no one is going to wanna talk to you. With that said we are a family here and we love you!

@Aakash but you haven't done any of this. I hate to say you're a parrot right now but you really are.

@Aakash This where your ego begins to delude you into delusions of grandeur..be careful...

@Aakash but you have not had direct experience of the things you discuss. So that is why everything you say is merely concept to you...so ultimately you are not in a position to teach enlightened beings. You can lay out your stages of post enlightenment and even enlightenment but it is all concept to you while it is direct experience for the enlightened. No one yet has directly manipulated imagination intentionally yet so that aspect is concept even to the enlightened.

@Aakash i think what you are doing here is good and revolutionary - because a common trap for enlightened beings - and yes - believe it not enlightened beings can still trap themselves - is once they experience the miracle of awakening they tend to forget about form/duality simply because the bliss and power of a non-dual state is beyond all words. That said until one becomes directly conscious of Oneness they will not see that duality is non-duality. I don't judge other's levels of consciousness - but i do see that Conrad grasps Oneness. He is just basking in non-duality and there is nothing wrong with that. It will bring a person to their knees crying like a little baby for days on end. So keep doing what you are doing by helping to map out uncharted territory - to evolve mankind. Let's hear more about your spiral dynamics mappings again.

@Aakash ide recommend this be discussed in your other thread for enlightened beings. We don't want to derail this thread as the OP was looking for a particular answer.

@Preetom lol the office aint nothing compared to this forum

@Aakash actually you still can criticize. If you so choose. It doesn't matter whether he is little Conrad or Big Conrad. You become directly conscious that it's all God. The form is no less relevant than the formless. Of course when he is being little Conrad he is being little Conrad. Thats the point of being little Conrad! When he is being big Conrad he realized well heck i am just criticizing myself! That's why when people say God wouldn't be on a forum or God wouldn't get drunk..they're not awake.

@CharlotteIndeed you ARE it but you can't know it through words or concept. You can, but you won't be enlightened. Enlightenment is becoming the Absolute by being it. Being = knowing. And yes you are IT right now but you are form. You must collapse into formlessness to Be the Absolute and to know you are the Absolute by Being it. Knowing = Being and pure Being is just isness. It is itself. That's why words and concepts break down here. And Yes you are correct that reality - formed reality - is an Absolute Relativity.

@Charlotte You don't know it. You ARE it. You have to literally become it and words can't even go there.

@Wisebaxter indeed. Awakening feels like you beat the game. You pull back the curtain in Oz and see the wizard pulling the strings. And you discover you are the wizard. "Funny in a way as everyone always talks about feeling more connected on a spiritual path. But really we're alone. Saying that....I guess they're the same thing?" Indeed you see that is both and One simultaneously.

@Esoteric i think your intuition is spot on

@Commodent @Leo Gura my 13 yr old son got it immediately. As if it was completely obvious to him and second nature.. It was amazing. And refreshing.

@Truth Addict gotchya

@Commodent people stuck in the materialist paradigm are gonna demonize spirituality/idealism. My own wife does not like me even mentioning it. Because it threatens their worldview. Or they just flat out think you are crazy. The problem is that idealism isn't mainstream yet. Maybe in a few hundred years many many more people will awake and there will be more of a collective open mind. But in today's times it's shunned - just like Galileo was shunned in his day.

@Truth Addict It will definitely appear that way unless one has had direct experiences for themselves with this stuff. But i don't think I'm stating anything you don't already know or at least intuit. So from the POV of someone who hasn't it's warranted.

@Jkris it happens when it wants to happen. Perhaps you still identify with "some" thing. Such as the body...or the "soul" but realize this is illusory.

@zeroISinfinity love ya Zero. No need to die. You are already God.

@StephenK you will come full circle to where it will start to matter again but in a much, much, different and more conscious way.

@nowimhere yes it does.

@Keyhole

@nowimhere they're separate so you can do 30 min of self inquiry then take a break and do no mind. Or do self inquiry one day and the next day do no mind...that's what i did. And i recommend Leos first few enlightenment videos while doing self inquiry. I think in the 2nd or 3rd he starts to inquire - so listen to those while in self inquiry mode. Good luck!