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You would feel the pain but only because you as God are imagining you would feel the pain. This is a dream. It's just consciousness. And what is consciousness? Nothing. Zilch.

The entire planet is a rock. (Yeah a mix of rock and magma) but a rock. Is God experiencing itself as the earth - yeah in a way - its imagining it. So in that sense it is all alive and sentient as God. But is it imagining it is looking through the imaginary eyes of the earth - nah - or it would have eyes.

Precisely...thus the question if a tree falls in the forest with no one around does it make a sound should bother you if there is any chance for you in this work. (Not you personally) It makes no sense according to the materialist paradigm. Yet if it is consciousness itself - if it exists for itself because it is itself - well...now we are talking!

Classic :)?

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There is only Being. Check out Leo's video "What is Perception" But it can be discovered directly by being Being. Or rather, becoming directly conscious that you are Being. (The two statements mean the same thing) That's when the real mindfuck happens.

@LoveandPurpose i would recommend the booklist. As well as listen to Leo's videos. I also would recommend a company called the Great Courses where you can listen or watch college grade lectures on all of these topics (science being one of my favorites) from highly respected and very talented professors. I love their course selection. For spirituality and personal development you won't find anything deeper than Leo's material. Even the great courses don't have courses that go that deep into consciousness as the nature of reality. But their philosophical courses are really good nonetheless and sometimes point at consciousness being the nature of reality though most professors stay away from it as they are in the materialist paradigm. Hope that helps!

@Johnny5 It collapses into.... Somewhere where words cannot go.. Isness might be a good word. It just IS. I AM. But that's still a pointer. It isn't IT. Do i get it now?

Inifnity is a motherfucker.

What you are saying is that from the Absolute this right here is nothing. Nothing is happening here. But what is this? Its nothing. But then what is this? Its nothing. But then what is this? See the loop? God has nowhere to go. It has to go somewhere so it goes no where.

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God / Consciousness wakes up to itself.

@Nahm ??

Oh hehe guess Nahm was joking @Nahm

Actually due to Oneness he is...(i don't even know who they are but..theyre me) Just how you wanna look at is relative.

Reality is a strange loop paradox. Everthing is nothing and nothing is everything. There is no ground.

@Nahm??

I'm not disrespecting the dude who passed. But awakening provides infinite intelligence. It doesn't fix your egoic issues but it provides you with enough consciousness to overcome them. Now I'm saying awakening by any means possible. Meditation, pyschedelics and the like.

I would have agreed with you had i not experienced enlightenment. In fact i was you. For many decades. Leo and all the other spiritual teachers arent making this shit up man - its the real deal.

Well said sir and welcome to the forum! I've not seen your posts before.

Actually i think if done in the right mindset, maturity, and proper build up, you would enter God Consciousness anyway. And that is where the realizations occur. Your finite consciousness isn't affected at all. The ego probably won't be very happy apon its return though :)? But if done enough times you become a psychonaut and the ego actually gets used to dying. No more backlash.

@Derek White also banning is a delicate issue. A lot must be considered along with prior warnings to determine someone isn't suitable for the forum.

@Derek White you handled yourself extremely well throughout the entire thread. Frankly I'm impressed. @Raptorsin7. You have the passion to teach and grow others - that is clearly shining through. Yet as you mentioned you are still learning the best ways to do this and it is evident in your posts and apology to @Derek White. My advice would be to lead with a light hand. Anyways i say we all shake hands and move on :)??

Yes it can definitely happen spontaneously.

Indeed...notice the definition...its a religious movement. To me that smells of a belief and not actuality. Actuality is isness itself and awakening through the collapse of the self via mysticism. Not through the ego realizing it. Once that happens you as the Godhead tap into Infinite intelligence and get a full hit on what reality is fundamentally. Thus these types of traps would be a non-issue! Im not saying that some neo-advaita teachers aren't fully awake but it really makes me suspicious......