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I understand yours too and they are all valid points In regards to one of your points perhaps its not stated enough here that psychedelics should not be taken irresponsibly, but rather with care, and with knowledge of potential risks - but to set an age recommendation would be hard because everyone matures at different rates. But as a general rule i agree it probably shouldn't be toyed with before 25 and even then only with a foundation or conceptual framework - i.e actually listening to Leo's videos on topics like enlightenment and self inquiry, Absolute Infinity, quantum mechanics debunks materialism, reality is a strange loop, and Godels incompleteness theorem to name a few. Then first spend at least a year doing hardcore balls to the wall meditation and or yoga. Then and only then go into it and go into it with care.

Its the only decent thing at Starbucks :)??

Its not about seeking enlightenment at that stage - it is exploring consciousness for things such as healing. When you become conscious that reality is in fact an infinite mind - mystical and a mechanical - then many new doors open up. This is going beyond most enlightened masters. Its to move humanity forward. People will poo poo it of course - that's just fine though and to be expected.

@fridjonk well said. Although i have no experience with psychedelics i can intuit they can take you deep and overwhelm the ego seamlessly. They can also probably heal depression and other psychological ailments. I've no doubt about it. Studies are coming out about that too.

ehh not true actually...awakening is awakening.

@LfcCharlie4 It's not about psychedelics - my awakening - and you know this because we have talked outside the forum - was via meditation. @Mongu9719 just stepped across the line of the guidelines because there are open minded people who are here to learn and he is calling them sheep. Its not conducive to the work we are doing here. Not beneficial to anyone.

If we see it we will issue a warning. I'm not sure what the big deal is here....

@Martin123 namecalling is against forum guidelines....calling another user a sheep.

It is possible to become directly conscious of Oneness. Not knowing it in theory. Being it.

@ttm because this is about waking up - not dicking around - and when you do wake up - you will be like "holy fuck - i see what these guys were talking about!" @Mongu9719 has been warned for making it personal and screwing around. Its just a waste of everyone's time.

@Emerald so @erik8lrl is awake...this is some of the best advice one can give...i wish you the best and i joined your channel

Good then this ride is over.

Leo is off in isolation i wouldn't bother....

Guys chillax. Its Ok to question this stuff - Truth is radical as heck otherwise everyone would be awake. I don't see anyone close minded here...

@Visionary no worries i was coming from a place of respect and not preaching or anything. I have not healed either but i know it's possible. I did lose10 pounds overnight after a mystical experience :)? being totally serious too.

@erik8lrl that is something else bro. Beyond words. That was Infinity. That was Absolute Love. Thanks for the share.

@Identity honestly without a strong pyschedelic you have to be wary of coming from a place of ego which will make you think you are seeking. Because to die it does not want. It wants to survive. Unless you know nothing and just start meditating with some bits of info but not enough for the ego to know the Truth. In that sense its possible but again its a fine line between coming from selflessness and coming from ego. That's why a pyschedelic may be best if you already know too much conceptually and you have already been meditating for a year or more. I awoke in a week of meditation but i stumbled onto it and the conceptual framework and meditation all happened within a week or two's time. Wasnt time for the ego to prepare. It was caught off guard. That's why she said it happens when it happens. Because the ego is caught off guard or stumbles onto awakening. Further awakenings the ego shuts down the system. It doesn't wanna die.

Your funny lol.

@Visionary when you become conscious of Oneness who else would be doing it? And when you become conscious that you are imagining everything healing is also possible. This is something that you just need direct consciousness of - it cannot be conveyed. And you probably aren't believing it -- you have had your own awakenings already Otherwise i would tell you to be open minded but not take anything on as dogma.

@Exystem Yes infinity cannot be grasped from the finite. It cannot reference itself because it is itself. So that's why an enlightened master can only speak of Truth and those words are partial. It is part of Truth but it is not the whole of it. Truth is something you are but just have to become aware that you are by paradoxically collapsing a you to be aware of it - so that there is only awareness itself as itself. Just have to become conscious that you are Yourself. Pure Being / isness with no reference. I give you Infinity.

Nailed.

@Cudin just listened to it myself. If you are awake it will make sense. Otherwise you just need an open mind and the desire to understand reality and what you are.

Yup

@Sari yes it's fine to practice multiple techniques.

@Martin123 well yes but also in a sense in a non-dual state all dualities have collapsed and One is conscious they are One. The self and other duality collapses. But then when duality returns, the separated self now realizes there really is no separation. The ego knows that the ego has been imagined by itself as God so that there could be the appearance of separation. So the "ego" knows that it and God are the same thing. ..God is just appearing as a separate ego - cuz all of that is imaginary. That's when it gets loopy and paradoical. So it's really God that makes sense of the experience.