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Of course because part of the self's survival technique is to seek happiness/pleasure out there somewhere, which counterintuitively leads to suffering. The ego's survival techniques kick in as if on autopilot so you have to always stay mindful of it and rest in being.

Sounds like the consensus is that you would need to grow the beard out first.

@Spiral Wizard remember that the ultimate goal in this work is to discover you are God and that you are your own authority. Teachers are here to guide you but at some point you have to outgrow the need to place authority in someone else and realize that you are it. And always think for yourself first and foremost.

@Highest ??

@Highest nice to see you back bud.

@StephenK nice! Yes Infinity / You are quite the force. Welcome home!?❤

Haha I'm in the same boat ??

In essence a mystical experience is a non-dual state - the dissolution of the self. As the self / other is a duality which collapses. So it is a form of ego backlash after the non-dual state of consciousness in which the ego, upon return, tries to deceive itself for its own survival. Because if it knows the Truth it ceases to be. And the last thing the ego wants to do is die. .

He said God is in charge, and some...not God is in charge of some.

That's precisely correct. And that's awesome if you are conscious of this without ever going full circle - meaning go from division to unity and then back to division. You did it without the round trip and that's great. (Or maybe you took the round trip, i don't know) but most people here that are wanting to grasp reality and themselves as God - it you tell them this it makes no sense to them. Rather if they were to die before they die so to speak and are then reborn they grasp it immediately as they have tapped into mysticism and infinite intelligence.

Yes the term enlightenment is in itself a relative term. But there is something mystical that can happen when you dissolve the self other duality. It is a mystical experience. It's not just dropping a belief its Being itself.

@assx95 thought/concept is form. To be formless is to become directly conscious that you are the present moment and collapse the self and other duality into isness. (Non-duality) Pull out your hand and look at it. Acknowledge it - that is actuality - right now. The present moment. If you stare at it long enough, the perceiver and the perceived collapse and you become your true nature - actuality itself. You and the hand become one. It happens when it happens but the longer you meditate the greater the chances.

@GoatBeard do these chills feel blissful? It sounds like an experience of Being/Love...which also can be described as a dissolving/melting feeling. That's really good. Don't get depressed it means that you are starting to open up. It's great and you could be spiritually gifted. Keep going!

For me it is a dissolving/melting feeling of pure bliss. It feels literally like i am dissolving into Infinity. (Because that's what's happening) Its wonderful. I have never tried heroin but i imagine it couldn't even hold a candle.

There isn't. Something is nothing. Nothing is something. Infinity.

Right...the key thing to grasp is that reality itself has the self reference problem - it cannot reference itself because its one singularity. Therefore it cannot point at itself - anything it uses to point to itself with is still itself. It can't reference itself - it has nowhere to go. It just IS itself. Reality just has to discover that it IS itself. For someone to explain this is one thing - but when you become directly conscious of it - it is a mystical experience - For the first time you will be izzing ??

They're identical. Imagination is form and Infinite Love is formlessness. Formlessness is all form.

Yep that's it man :)?❤ Have you sighted the Ox?

You can point at it meaning you can hint around at it. Yes, its the self reference problem. Reality is one singularity - thus everything it tries to point at itself with is already itself.... It just has to realize it IS itself. That moment of realization is enlightenment. That's Being.

@Raptorsin7 oh man....i can't even describe it..but trust me, you'll know (paradoxically lol)

@Raptorsin7 ? Well Truth is prior to thought or language - its rockbottom. You can only be it as Being is prior to knowing. Rockbottom is formless as it must be infinite to hold all form within it... its the fabric. And with reality the fabric is literally nothing. So when you think of Truth, that is a thought, which is form. The thought itself (form) is held within formlessness. So you can't get to formlessness with form..its already inside it. You have to have a mystical shift and become formlessness.

@Raptorsin7 because its nothing.

Welcome back @FoxFoxFox

Dont confuse what they are saying for Solipsism. People seem to get confused with that.