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Yes, my awakening was without psychedelics. I trust leo that psychedelics work though. There is no way that he aint awake.

You won't awaken. God does. That is how tricky this is. Most of the path will be sprinkled with self-deception and ego. But to awaken you must die. That is why deep inner suffering from selfishness can ultimately awaken someone. Or becoming directly conscious that you are God/Awareness via meditation or psychedelics.

Wise words good to see you back!

I like that. So can you get under understanding itself? Well one can become conscious that reality is groundless so it's like asking where Infinity came from.

It's mystical it's Magic.

Psychedelics can assist in that when you wake up to being God/Infinite love these repressions will melt away because the self will be seen through and Truth revealed... you will have the most wonderful cry of your life, releasing all of it as you will tap into Infinite Intelligence and Love. You will understand the cause of your sadness. You will see through your own selfishness in every way. Baseline consciousness will then be higher after the mystical experience. Godspeed

I didn't need to vote either my state is always blue - but i did.

Wisdom is growin' on ya Peach As Leo said it will be necessary to move past this - just like with vaccines of the past. Yes you are putting trust in the system but in the Absolute sense you are the system. You're imagining the whole fucking thing. Prolong it and you are not helping progression but contributing towards the delay.

Rationalize it away

@IamMystic why aren't there more awakened people? Cuz mankind still has a long way to go.

Mysterious isn't it mystical

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@Moksha well also consciousness cannot be lost. We can only imagine that. Have you ever experienced non-existence?

That's still appearance. It's tricky stuff. Come do it to me. Fear of death - as real as it seems - is also imaginary. But it has to seem real or we would not have a chance of surviving in this imaginary form.

@Corpus yeah - reality "appears" so real. Yet if one looks under the hood of reality - appearance is all that is there.

Guess ya gotta discover that for yourself - of course you will - you already have really advanced intuition You have a will it is just finite. And yeah within the dream it all seems so real - but maybe that's the point

No no no. You are still thinking like a materialist. The brain is doing none of that. The brain is imaginary. Psychedelics will help you transcend the brain.

Isness is Absolute Infinity.

Maybe you do get it now and @Nahms posts aren't supposed to make sense Maybe using logic to grasp reality isn't such a good "idea"

Yes they are. There only becomes the duality of Absolute / relative when we imagine it. If we stop imagining there is only existence itself - or isness.

@Mafortu you touch on something that is often misunderstood by many who preach duality does not exist. Or they don't explain it well enough. Duality IS imaginary. The example of the perceiver is the duality of subject / object. Absolutely speaking what everything IS is Isness Being. One. So when teachers say this they are speaking from the Absolute perspective, not the relative. Some say it in a way to say that the relative doesn't exist - but again it is imaginary - it exists but it is content within the structure - so what they mean is that the content is not the substance of reality. When talking about the substance of reality it is Isness itself. And of course the paradox is since everthing is One the content IS the structure - so you run this contradiction because of the self reflection problem of Oneness. That's a feature not a bug.

@Psychventure if it were otherwise God could not experience limitation. The finger is also the hand. But to be the finger it must be the finger.

@Leo Gura he'll be a distant memory soon.

@Leo Gura you're in a black hole

Well i was going to say modern science did their damndest to figure out the nature of reality and the best they could come up with was reality is made of wave functions or mathematical equations - probabilities if you will. That is quantum mechanics. So if you really wanna dive deep dive into the work of Neils Bohr. I prefer him over Einstein because despite Einstein's theory of relativity he was in denial that there was no objective reality or that reality could be infinite consciousness although eventually j think he came around. He just wanted a logical answer in the beginning. Bohr knew reality was fundamentally nothing.