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Correct - that is most likely going to be the case because they are so firmly locked into that ideology from years of indoctrination. And why they will most likely never progress beyond stage Blue.

If he had an actual God awakening he would understand the difference between the word God in the context of post rational vs pre-rational and would need to articulate this to his students.

I haven't listened to much of him - but i think he really still believes consciousness exists within the brain - and that's it - not that materialism is nested within idealism. That materialism is it.

@Mason Riggle Lolz...do we really need to start prefacing everything with "within the dream, the imaginary Sam Harris is a materialist."? Its kind of a given when we speak that we are speaking dualistically

@Dazgwny very nice Yeah i remember when i had a similar awakening. And in the days that followed, while consciousness was still highly elevated, i recall seeing a squirrel getting squished by a car on the road....and i recall being conscious that the squirrel was just an idea dissolving in the mind of God. In my Mind

@StarStruck my bad....?

It's the realization that you ARE Leo. Its total Oneness.

You don't mind smelling your own farts do you?

Exactly - they are mere pointers to Absolute Truth. Which is what you ARE - prior to imagination. Again more word games. We cannot grasp Truth here. Have to Be Truth. So we will just keep chasing our tail conceptualizing. Have to do the spiritual work. ?

@Leo Gura @Ry4n You guys beat me - i couldn't stand to listen to it at all because i knew what was coming

Its more radical than that. You realize that there is no such thing as death. Death is an illusion of the egoic mind. Because you are not the body and you are not the soul or the ego. All of those are merely ideas. You are Infinite Mind and you can discover that directly. When you become directly conscious that you are not these things the illusion that death is actual will die. All that was illusion shall melt away. And what remains is Pure Consciousness or Pure Infinity. This will be the most beautiful experience, and it cannot be described with words. This is more imagination. There is only the present moment.

@Adamq8 indeed!

@Vercingetorix yes - God is imagining the dream to be real - lost in its own mind. so it can be shocking to awaken from the dream and discover it is all a fiction and that God is alone because it is a radical recontextualization of reality. But its also marvelous and miraculous beyond description!

@SpYITB awaken and know the answer experientially

God agrees with God. What is right or wrong? No one is wrong! Because there is no one here!

God doesn't "need" to do anything. It is Everything already. It is the structure and the content. Right now you are dreaming up this world exploring every possibility - and you will go on dreaming up realms onto eternity as God is an Infinite Mind. Remember Absolute Infinity is pure Selflessness - the one who sees suffering it the finite part of itself which is actually God suffering along with you. God is you. But in reality everything is Love. We only see it as negative or imperfect from our finite POV.

@SpYITB I'm just saying that something that is everything is its own end - its prior to needing a reason. All "reasons" are of course partial. So counterintuitively - Infinite Love! You see when God uncovers its own trick it realizes it is Infinite. It falls in love with Itself when it realizes what it truly is again. Because Infinity and Love are identical.

Why would you limit Infinity. It has been. It's Infinity. But Infinity also includes every possible finitude. Right now what you are is one of those. You can shift to the whole thing as well.

Brilliant

@soos_mite_ah to start investing immediately.

Lucky for you - it's the one thing you can't do as God. You can't destroy yourself - other than through imagining it and tricking yourself - which it appears you did a very good job of

@Mythos it is transcending the human mind. Transcending logic and rationalism. Infinity/Being requires no mechanism - which defies all logic. Because of course it is prior to logic. Its just pure magic. Reality is imagination because it is Infinite - it's substrate is nothing.

Right now the panic and anxiety is due to a fear of the unknown and lack of certainty. To fill this void of uncertainty your mind is imagining all types of horrible scenarios that might occur.. But realize this for what it is: imagination - illusion. It is all self deception. When you actually find the inner strength to face the fears head on - feel through them fully - the illusion will be lifted and seen for what it was.. Once it is seen as illusion the gig is up. You'll feel liberated - free from the shackles of your own mind. They may try to come back but will no longer pack the same punch as they will be void of substance this time.

You have to realize that the idea of there being humans at all is a fantasy in itself. Something you are imagining.

@Thought Art ❤