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I'm not disrespecting the dude who passed. But awakening provides infinite intelligence. It doesn't fix your egoic issues but it provides you with enough consciousness to overcome them. Now I'm saying awakening by any means possible. Meditation, pyschedelics and the like.

I would have agreed with you had i not experienced enlightenment. In fact i was you. For many decades. Leo and all the other spiritual teachers arent making this shit up man - its the real deal.

Well said sir and welcome to the forum! I've not seen your posts before.

Actually i think if done in the right mindset, maturity, and proper build up, you would enter God Consciousness anyway. And that is where the realizations occur. Your finite consciousness isn't affected at all. The ego probably won't be very happy apon its return though :)? But if done enough times you become a psychonaut and the ego actually gets used to dying. No more backlash.

@Derek White also banning is a delicate issue. A lot must be considered along with prior warnings to determine someone isn't suitable for the forum.

@Derek White you handled yourself extremely well throughout the entire thread. Frankly I'm impressed. @Raptorsin7. You have the passion to teach and grow others - that is clearly shining through. Yet as you mentioned you are still learning the best ways to do this and it is evident in your posts and apology to @Derek White. My advice would be to lead with a light hand. Anyways i say we all shake hands and move on :)??

Yes it can definitely happen spontaneously.

Indeed...notice the definition...its a religious movement. To me that smells of a belief and not actuality. Actuality is isness itself and awakening through the collapse of the self via mysticism. Not through the ego realizing it. Once that happens you as the Godhead tap into Infinite intelligence and get a full hit on what reality is fundamentally. Thus these types of traps would be a non-issue! Im not saying that some neo-advaita teachers aren't fully awake but it really makes me suspicious......

From Wikipedia: Neo-Advaita, also called the Satsang-movement and Nondualism, is a New Religious Movement, emphasizing the direct recognition of the non-existence of the "I" or "ego," without the need of preparatory practice.

Science and mysticism will one day merge into a type of meta science. The merger of science and mysticism will transcend today's science - because today's science only studies the content of reality. It doesn't take into account metaphysics and the study of reality itself - which is ultimate Truth. They're currently looking for a theory of everything - one equation that will bring everything together as One. But what they are missing is Truth itself. It's too radical for the average person to accept right now. But it was shown via quantum mechanics that there is no point in saying matter exists when one cannot measure both its position and velocity simultaneously. You're in a dream! He would go on if invited. I'm just saying society isn't ready anyway at a global level.

I think he does.

@Raptorsin7 easy tiger it is totally logical for him to see it from his perspective

@Llight i was the biggest atheist and materialist you could ever know. Probably more than you. I literally stumbled on spirituality while looking to beat an addiction. So when i discovered it was the real deal i was shocked and stunned. Take that for what its worth.

But you are here on this forum eh? Which means there is a curiosity within you. Or intuition.

You are assuming yourself is a human and not pure Consciousness.

@Llight science is held within consciousness! The only way to discover this for yourself is to dive into it. Personality i love science - but ultimately there will be a merging of science and mysticism into something new.

It wakes you up to a meta perspective (aka God) so that you are conscious that there is no brain - but that a brain, along with everything else, is held within consciousness.

Seek and awaken to Truth. All questions will be answered.

If they are joking around about it that's cool. ")❤? but if they are seriously locked into it then that would inhibit they're own growth as God.

He would be demonized like Galileo in his day. Its an existential bind that civilization is in. Only time will evolve us beyond.

@Nahm @VeganAwake Personally i resonate (there is no me so i guess i shouldn't say this) with the guy from the 10th ox herding picture :)?❤ nothing needs to be said or done anymore - all is perfection. However if one wants to say something its not "spiritually incorrect" either. All is good to go!!

You can attain enlightenment through suffering. And yes while there is no one to be enlightened - that's only evident afterwards. That's why its a paradox. Also it is really annoying to me the spiritual teachers that make language so strict that you can't say things like staying in the present moment. I think some teachers make things so strict it takes the fun out of Being because they are sooo hooked on only one facet - about duality being imaginary - that they can't even allow themselves to stop and smell the roses which they themselves created.

Really need to awaken first then quantum mechanics all fits into place. Not the other way around.. Can't reach it through science. I know this has been stated dozens of times on the forum but its true.

After full ego death and realization of one's true nature, the idea of the ego or you being a real physical entity dies permanently along with the materialist paradigm as it is seen through as imaginary. After that duality is just a playground.

Yes its paradoxical of course. If you are too brave you won't die. The ego has to stumble on it - or you need a strong pyschedelic that will overwhelm the ego.