Inliytened1

In the big picture yes. But did you have all the realizations at the same time? If you did more power to you

The differences that we make are created. I'm not disagreeing. I'm simply stating that difference is relative to context. If you are speaking from the Absolute Absolute - of course. When you wake up from the dream to see that all this form - this universe was something you dreamed up...that is simply God realizing itself. Is it a contrast between itself and the dream? Sure. So what. The dream melts away or collapses into complete Oneness. But contrast is not the enemy. God realizes itself and realizes what it is. That it is not a human typing on a forum. It realizes that it is God. But then later it can realize hey, I am also the dream and everything in the dream too. What's wrong with being separate from myself? Nothing of course because right or wrong is just something I created.

If reality was not unlimited could there not be differences?

That's what I said earlier. Yes it is still God. How can it be anything else when it is unlimited? But it is precisely the realization of limitlessness that offers what you speak of.

It's all One.

Yes but that's just kinda the limitations of language l..it depends on what context you are referring to when you say reality is imaginary. Most of the time when we say that reality is imaginary we do not use the phrase in that context. It is in the context which contrasts it with materialism. Materialism holds the belief that reality is objective- it actually exists behind the scenes somewhere outside of THIS which is pure direct experience or direct perceptions without a perceiver or experiencer. Now you may say what is the difference there....but to become conscious of the difference there is quite profound actually. When you become conscious of this yes you can then imagine that reality is objective and it will become that for you. But that is very different to what is actual or true. That is you getting lost in your mind. What's insane or paradoxical/loopy about this is because of Oneness this being lost will be Total.

That's where it's at. Beyond orgasmic baby!

Everything is context.

Of course ? It's all in good fun

Of course the map is not the territory...put that aside and let's talk about the territory...Notice your use of the word "i" and "your" and "our" experience...and yes, as long as there was still a subject and an object involved then I agree. But what if there was something Absolute? Meaning it was Absolute by definition? Are you dismissing this possibility? Well it sounds like you are, which counterintuitively has turned into what is absolutely true and not subjective. In other words by you saying that all is subjective, that in itself is objective and has become your Absolute Truth.

Haha Indeed. There is a lot of good stuff available on here if you have an open mind. God is always mentally masturbating

It's just a lounge. If you are doing the actual practices you won't be on here. There is enough conceptual framework in the videos. The forum is really just for like minded folks to take a break from the spiritual techniques and shoot the shit..If you learn a few things along the way great ?

Well said....in the end the ego is it's own downfall. It chases pleasure but can never reach true happiness via selfishness because the self was illusory. It's just too selfish to see it

Correct

No one else can answer this for you. Awakening is literally taking back your authority- so how would you awaken as God if you are still putting your authority into a guru? Ultimately the choice is yours. In fact there need not be a choice. Don't get too caught up in the free will debate or forcing spirituality...just do what makes you happy. If that includes spirituality fine - if not fine too.

Well its interesting...your not wrong in the sense that imagination literally is reality. Which is precisely what a dream is. Inside the dream you cannot tell the difference between real and imaginary because there is nothing to contrast it with. However if your state of consciousness changed in which you stepped outside that entire reality, only then would it be seen as imaginary. And then you might wonder - well can you then step to another level of consciousness and step outside of that? And the answer there is no because that is Infinity. You can perhaps reach infinitely higher infinite states but at this point you are God Consciousness or Absolute Consciousness. This is what all the sages discuss- Absolute Divinity- Absolute Love - Divine Bliss- Nirvana - Death, Oneness, Truth, etc... That is not imagination - that is the thing (actually nothing) that imagines!. Now note here I am just pointing to it. The Tao is not the Tao, or something like that. Now, Maybe I'm full of shit and imagining ALL Of THAT!! but hey maybe I'm not? So of course Mario inside the dream can be told by someone that hey this is all a video game, and if he is open enough he can say yeah sure - so if it is but I am imagining its real then what's the difference? It IS real isn't it? And of course he would be right

Yes it sounds like a glimpse..you weren't being the "I" you were just Being. Keep going ?

The big picture is what we are concerned with here - what is Absolute. If this is a dream and you have not yet awoken from the dream then it is all you know. Like Mario inside the video game - that's all he is conscious of so that IS reality for him. Until one day if he actually managed to break out of the game and see that there was another layer or in this case state of consciousness. That's all this is.

@RMQualtrough interesting, that must have been some experience ? pretty mind blowing how reality can lose itself in its own Mind.

@Leo Gura @WaveInTheOcean had one of those mindfuck moments this morning after waking up from a dream that felt so real (because it was, until I woke up) without anything to contrast it with, it became reality. Ive had it before but it still so profound.. The mindfuck was that this right here is the exact same thing - until you awaken. It hit me so hard.... Mindfucked again haha.

@FoolsGold embrace paradox.

You too bro

Exactly! It's wonderful to realize it's just a game - you can stop suffering (taking things so damn seriously!) You also start becoming much more aware of when you are starting to imagine or fantasize about stuff which can often bring you suffering. You get better and better at catching your own self deceptions and grounding yourself in the present moment.

What if you are imagining that?

We have the ability to reason and justify our survival where animals simply survive. We imagine reasons for our survival. We also develop deep attachments as a result of that reasoning- which makes it all the more challenging.