Inliytened1

Haha. You put me in an existential bind. If I'm bothered by this than you (myself) wins and i defeat myself by believing there is others. If i don't then i let myself remain deceived.

No. Isness. Enlightenment. Keep contemplating.

Really? How does it happen outside your mind? What would it be outside of the perception of it?

EXACTLY. The entire question is imaginary. Now the only question left is to discover if that is true - for yourself.

No i didn't. Go back to the original question and answer it honestly. If a tree falls in the forest with no one there or conscious of it - does it even happen?

Reality is a mind and not physical. There is only Mind and the finite perspective it wants to break itself into. If it wishes not to divide it is One.

The Absolute Truth is it's Infinite Mind or Infinity responding to you. But to get even deeper its just Infinity talking to itself. I literally have to imagine you are real to have a discussion with you. Contemplate right now if you really wanna become conscious of all of reality. Better get used to spending a lot of time with yourself.

Still a materialist. Do you believe there is a world existing outside your door right now?

Excellently put!!! Until you become conscious of Absolute Truth!!! Once you do you will realize i am imaginary though - so you are proving it to no one. (Or yourself)

Infinity. Exactly.

Yes from your true perspective, the Godhead, all minds are within your own Mind. It is all your dream.

Well said.

Indeed

I would beg you pause before proclaiming mental masturbation. For it was my becoming directly conscious that Consciousness was fundamental that led to enlightenment.

I know. I'm saying contemplate how something can be if no one is conscious of it. Doesnt that change what it is? It is no longer your perception of it. It is itself!

Are you a materialist?

All others are imaginary. You are the Godhead.

Thats just it. There is ONLY awareness or pure Being / consciousness and direct consciousness of this is enlightenment or awakening. After awakening you can come back and play all the games you want. There is only Being. There is only infinite Love.

No it's not. The key is understanding can a thing exist outside of Consciousness. Its not about a sound. We can also ask - does a tree fall with no one around? Are you saying to yourself - oh it just happens and it's beyond our understanding? Well that's just a concept. Really think about what something would be without anyone conscious of it. Would it be conscious of itself in order for it to be? But to your earlier statement your right. You are literally imagining the tree and that it can fall without you. Materialism debunked!!

your right - this is what spiritually gifted means. Either you grasp it or you don't. You believe in past lives. Perhaps it takes many lives to grasp.

It's not. It's actually the key that unlocks enlightenment.

Exactly! I can play around though

It's exactly how it sounds my friend. Everything is imaginary. It is all in your mind. You are reality itself and reality itself is a Giant Mind or Infinite Mind. It can be discovered directly though apparently very few break through to this.

@GabeN very nice

The subjective/objective is in the context of whether or not there is a physical world out there. If there were, reality (in terms of the realm of form) would be objective. But this is not the case and can be discovered via awakening. It can be discovered that the realm of form is an absolute relativity or an absolute subjectivity. The only thing objective about it is it is 100 percent subjective.