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Of course what is not relative (other than the Absolute). Well you can actually reach a point where such labels are dropped and one just sees reality as it is. You would not want Truth taken on as a belief and giving it a label like idealism is trying to lump it laterally with other beliefs.

why can't one be both? Why are you putting a "non-dualist" in a separate category than a "scientist"....why must they be separate and not incorporate both. At some point one will hit the limits of science but it is incorporated and transcended without judgement. It is still incredibly useful for what it is, though it may not get you to the ultimate Truth - its value is there. Keep in mind that there is no need to demonize anything.

What you are saying is it is a part of infinity. Of course everthing is. Even the deluded are a part of Absolute Truth. You can equally say a rapist is Absolute Love. If you have One thing then this can't be escaped. It is paradoxical in that way. That said, at the same time you can become more conscious and transcend the materialist paradigm because you see it for what it is which is a deception. It doesn't mean you are better in any way.

You ARE Truth. And you can become directly conscious of Truth by being it. Or being directly conscious that you ARE it. Same thing. Usually you will not become directly conscious of all of the facets of Truth at once - but you can become conscious of Infinity - in which you realize that everthing and nothing are identical. Therefore it has no ground and therefore physical reality is an illusion or an appearance. Idealism is just a finite label or pointer to a facet of Absolute Truth.

that's not what i am saying. I am saying that paradoxically it is. If as you said there is no your mind and my mind - then you are the Self. And when your form ends that is it. The entire realm of form goes with you. From your POV. From your POV all other POV are actually held within your own. Thats it. (That is all there is so stop there) From my POV, i am the Self. There is no your mind and my mind. When i enter mahasamadhi the entire realm of form ends. We are getting into loopy, paradoxical stuff here but that is a feature not a bug.

Wonder how many shots of vodka he had prior to

yes until Nothingness gets bored again

no i understand what you guys are saying and questioning.. It appears not to make any sense that you can be a projection of my mind, i can be projection of your mind, and yet we can still meet in the middle, and share the same reality. But who said reality had to be restricted to logic. That is a limitation we are putting on it. By that logic solipsism would be the only conclusion you could come to. But that again is applying a logical restriction. Remove all restrictions and you have Infinity. Paradox just might be a feature ?

You mean that your limited form ends and only the formless remains? Because infinity can't end But yes from my direct experience of samadhi not mahasamadhi, you will dissolve into pure formlessness, Absolute Love. It will be total as in all of the finite world ends. You will be pure Infinity.

I believe he addressed that later by saying it was really just his ego talking about the attachments he still had. We are still in the illusion that there is stuff behind the scenes most of the time we go about our daily life. Anyway don't get me wrong - don't try this at home. Survival is a wonderful thing

Beauitiful!!!

Yeah i had the same God is the one that realizes it because the ego is dead. But then also there was a time when i was in between as both. Hard to describe other than insanity! Yes it sounds crazy. Don't tell mom about it she probably won't understand.

I'm nowhere! ?

@Javfly33 reality is only perspecitves. There is no objective reality. It is an Absolute relativity. Meaning it is 100 percent relative and the only thing Absolute is that it is 100 percent relative! Its just God experiencing reality from an Infinite number of POVs. Thats literally all there is. He has a newer one called "What if reality were nothing but perspectives?". And the one on Absolute Infinity and "Understanding Relativism Part 1" is great too. And basically anything with the word reality in the title. All the metaphysical ones

Not really..absolutely speaking you exist within MY consciousness. You are completely imaginary. And From your POV i exist within yours. The mindfuck if that wasnt enough is that I am You and you are Me

@Travelion Its not like that. From their POV we all went poof. If it happens to you we will all go poof from your POV. Because we are all held within your consciousness from your POV.

Yes traumatic for the ego is an understatement - could barely look another person in the eye for about a week - but at the same time for me it was total liberation. That this whole thing was mine. Its indescribable.

Nice!

Yeah it sounds crazy but it was direct. It was during a series of awakenings i had after about a week of meditation and self inquiry. But yeah Gods perspective is imagining everything - all of it. All other people, inanimate objects, everything, is held within your consciousness. It does not necessarily interfere with others having POVs. (Or you being them simultaneously as God) Its just that this is in fact is what is really going on and you can mystically be shown it (by yourself, in God mode!). I did - others have too. So it doesn't mean solipism.

The awakening i had that was the aloneness one which it sounds like what he had - is to be the Godhead - all others are held within your Mind. The Giant Mind. God dreaming. That is a specific awakening. To take God's POV in form is the way i describe it.

he may have exaggerated because it is fresh to him. Its more to experience what it is like to have separation. God has complete Love for itself- all parts - without fear.. God waking up to itself for the first time and realizing that he is totally One is shocking. The ego cannot handle it once it comes back. But to God its amazing and blissful.

@vinc3nc This is it exactly. You can however still enjoy duality. The trick is as God you need to be able to shift seamlessly betweenn duality and non-duality. In duality your perspective or level of consciousness is back to being finite - aka you are imagining you are a human and furthermore you are imagining that that is real and poof it becomes real for you. Amd others are real. So you can still enjoy everthing - maybe even more so. But fresh off a mystical state it will be tough as you are seeing now - and you will feel like you are going insane - consciousness is still elevated - and it feels like driftng between duality and non-duality. After a long while you get back to normal human levels of consciousness and the ego settles back in - but scarred for life as it is revealed to be imaginary. But yeah once you know the Truth the ego doesn't wanna go back there because it dissolves. I had those mystical realizations myself through meditation and now to get there i would probably need psychedelics or completely forget everthing again. Spirituality is some serious stuff. But anyway maybe its time to explore the depths of Godhood now and do many more trips. There is still more stuff you can become conscious of.

Infinity is a motherfucker

Exactly. Language is dualistic and limited. Truth IS. Which is why this place is a lounge for discussion in between doing the practices.

It is possible to understand yourself completely. You may lose it again - but it is. But in that moment of Absolute understanding you must forgo that which is finite