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As is that there is a Leo you're trying to convince ?

Stop! I got attachments in this dream!!!

Yes all of these factor in...but you left out selflessness and honesty. You can embody these in your life and you will slowly start to align with Truth. You can practice selflessness for example when your partner wants to see movie "x" but you really wanted to see movie "y"...yet you put your partner first even if there is a little suffering on your part. That's a small example but it's these little things that count. Or it could be that you give some of your wealth to a homeless person - forgoing going shopping which was where you were heading. It's those types of things. And It's being an honest person as much as you can. These things are hard and I'm by no means claiming to be a saint but these are things that one can work on to align with Truth. Yes this definitely imo critical to reducing suffering because the mind is so riddled with self deception. Yes this too was my path Some people do all of the techniques and are very open minded but it still doesn't happen. Hence the prior factors you mentioned. And when the time is right.... Consider the possibility that you are spiritually gifted. Not everyone has these types of results (the mystical experience after 2 weeks)

Truer words could not be spoken my friend....

He's right ultimately- this starts getting into free will territory- that's what I was saying in the beginning - when God wakes up where does this dream and its meaning go? - where did the you who thought they had free will go? Or maybe it was God pulling the strings and it just appeared like you were behind the steering wheel ? But we can still play around in here...

I think it's feasible for anyone to awaken - even if they have absolutely no spiritual gifts whatsoever...however long it takes is how long it takes. If they leverage all the tools available, and have a curious, open mind. No one is disputing that. However long it takes is how long.

Well if you look at basketball for example- not everyone is going to be at the same level, right? There are some who are genetically gifted that barely need to practice and can make it to the NBA on raw talent alone. But talent alone won't take them to the highest level because they will need time to deepen their maturity and consciousness around the game and around life. So it can be similar with spirituality. People can be at different levels. Is it fair? Perhaps not depending on who you ask Now does this mean someone with no spiritual gifts whatsoever can't awaken? No...of course not..anything is possible. It just may take them a bit longer and the use of more tools...

Ultimately everything within the dream is imaginary. When God (you over there) shifts out of the dream all of this collapses. It was just a dream. So we are speaking within the context of the dream right now.

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Contemplate more then

Love.

How can no one is? What if the duality of "no one" and "one" collapses?

Don't hold your breath for a two part series in the catalog

@GreenLight yes keep going. When the self reference problem is realized directly you have hit it... and it will be Total. When something cannot point back to itself it just IS itself. That's the I AM. I IS ?

You'll just continue to zoom in forever.

And what is a probability field?

There is a shift in consciousness. It is mystical. Consciousness is mystical. How can everything be nothing? How can Infinity create itself? Does this make any rational or logical sense? All what, where's, and how's are something it dreams up! Look at your hand. Stare at the one of the fingers. You see and realize it's a finger? Now keep your focus there but make a shift in consciousness to realize it is the hand. Did you feel something with that shift? Don't feel bad if you don't...it takes the average guy lots of hours of meditation - perhaps years. That's why Leo speaks of psychedelics so much.

Lol I actually meant to just put "and now imagine" in bold to show we are imagining constantly sometimes without even realizing it...but that was kinda cool how that played out

Indeed!! Nice pic

See in bold....

@Mason Riggle you got it yet there can be the moment of realization that You are This - and that's enlightenment. The "i am" moment. You are Yourself. Pure Divine Love/Being

Aye!! So just to clarify for anyone reading what I was telling the guy in this thread earlier was not quite complete... that was one layer in..or imagination within imagination. See Consciousness is first imagining it is a biological self (the I) then it imagines other people as this self. So..one can begin to appreciate the layers of imagination here...when really once all this collapses it's just Pure Consciousness imagining.

Yep...if Consciousness expands enough it is realized there is no I or you just Consciousness. But IT is YOU as Awareness That's when things get interesting

Sshhh....

@Fadl Jesus may have been exceptionally spiritually gifted and it happened spontaneously. Meditation and self inquiry works by quieting the egoic mind and also deconstructing the selfish self by an inquiry into what you are...Psychedelics could be tremendous tool to use as well.