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I think he does but feels if you are awakened with meditation alone you are one of the few spiritually gifted. I was one of those and I agree with him there but it is my intuition. But it's not as black and white as that...i feel there are a lot of factors involved...genetics, but also life experience and level of suffering, which should lead to one becoming more conscious and thus less selfish as they realize selfishness is what causes suffering.

Haha and you make all great points as well- Your one of my favorite guys on here oh wait is God allowed to have favorites? Yeah why not? Love ya

Well first off realize that this is a dream so awakening others is just part of the dream itself. All others are projections of your Mind in the Absolute sense. So it's entertainment for the God-realized. So realize the desire to awaken others is an egoic desire....Nothing wrong with that.. But as the pure Infinite singularity that you are there is no need to awaken others because there are no others.. now back to the relative - That said...I feel that an individual will awaken when they are ready. Whatever ready entails for them. So if they willingly come to you and want to know about spirituality then I think you can teach it but ensure you also teach the dangers so that they know what they are getting themselves into first....make sure to stress all aspects of spirituality...but yeah after that I think it's awesome ?

Actually I don't tell "normies" anything anymore haha...if someone wants to know something about spirituality and asks me sure, but I realized a long-time back that these are delicate Truths that should never be forced on anyone... As for the Neutral description..ehh..I prefer Infinity or Love. Ain't nothing neutral about your finite body exploding from the power of Love/Infinity Also - ya seem to have an idea in your mind on how an "awakened one" should act. But God can do whatever it wants - if it wants to play around on a forum why not? All of reality is God's playground..Seems like you are still creating a duality in which God should act a certain way and not some other way.

Dang what a long post haha!! Yeah terror is not an Absolute - however what you gotta remember is that God is looking through your eyes right now as the ego. And as the ego it has gone its entire life thinking it (God) was a separate self. You see, in actuality God and the ego are one and the same. So in actuality once you are God realized the concept of transcending the ego melts away. You can choose to embrace your ego at this point because you are God and the line between God and ego blurr. You are simply God in form, and you can align yourself with Yourself via form. There is no need to banish the ego. Just be more conscious as God in finite form. Become more selfless, as much as is possible in finite form since there is still the requirement of survival. So yeah the when God wakes and reality is completely recontexualozed, it can still feel terror and awe of itself ...in fact that's what God wants..to experience the relative- God needs to know itself through itself! It needs to know terror (and awe) which is why it puts itself to sleep in the first place! Love ya too!!

@WaveInTheOcean beautiful

Aloneness/Oneness is both beautiful, perfect, and also terrifying. Because God is all things. God is terror, shock, surprise, wonder, perfection...etc..it's EVERYTHING. It is also the ego!! Surprise!!.. it's OK for God to feel terrified the first time it realizes there is nothing outside of it! It IS it's own mother! And it IS it's own son! It IS everyone in this forum, and the forum itself!! And It IS evil! It IS torture, rape, war...to discover there is absolutely no separation between anything and itself, that it is One. Is shocking. But it's ALSO Absolute Bliss, Goodness and Love simultaneously!!!! Because it's EVERYTHING. This isn't ego or delusion. Notice it is YOUR bias that excludes terror about Oneness/Aloneness (notice alone = Al-One) that is actually ego not the other way around! The realization of Oneness is extremely profound and radical and if you haven't hit the floor in both Love/Bliss and terror, shock and awe than you probably ain't awake!

You are probably very spiritually gifted, especially if you had an awakening spontaneously without any spiritual practices. But awakening is often a lifetime in the making, and learning about spirituality is just the straw that breaks the camel's back.

Nice!! Yes. it will be complete understanding of all of reality without thoughts. Because it is prior to time and space in which there is an individual having a thought. The ego completely dissolves. So it sounds like a glimpse yet not a total awakening.

Then you don't know it at the level of Being yet. Whole different ballgame You will wanna run and hide from yourself but there will be nowhere to run. Momma can't save you cuz she is you.

This is great and you are grasping it conceptually. Yet you can become directly conscious of it by becoming Pure Consciousness in which all dualities collapse into a perfect non-dual state of consciousness. Pure Actuality. Here you can have the direct realization (its so direct that you and the Realization become One..you ARE the Realization. The duality of self/other melts away. Just be careful what you wish for. As you said it can be terrifying - the first time God awakens from its slumber and realizes it is perfectly alone - it's a shock even to God.

Because you are not in a state of consciousness where you are omnipotent. There are layers of imagination and right now you are in a state of consciousness where your imagination is limited to what the ego can imagine. If you were in a state of Infinite Mind this reality or dream would lose its solidity and structure. You would no longer be the limited ego either. This is what allows you to be in the dream. It's precisely like a video game. In a video game If you accessed the developer mode the game would lose its meaning.

Your good. Your a quality member.

@Gesundheit2 oh so your posting now

This happens way too much here. Thanks for pointing this out.

Infinity bro. That is the case. What also is the case is that nothing has ever happened.

You could shorten this up quite a bit. Love. Or maybe just abandon language altogether and become it

I love you This world needs more Shins. Not more Trumps.

Beautiful ?

Damn straight! ? ❤ And Hey it was just the first name that came to mind - I had to pick something

@Breakingthewall @WaveInTheOcean OK both enlightened masters hug and make up

It is horrifying - but that is the cost of Absolute Truth.

Well said..It sounds like you are quite advanced... however here I think all that is being pointed out with this statement above is that the nature of reality is not physical, but rather physicality is couched within Mind. In my view it is not contradicting that the dream IS reality or denying that. Could it be possible that the use of the dream analogy is triggering you in some way?

I think you are misunderstanding these teachings. The teachings is that self and other is a duality that can collapse. Both self and other are imaginary.

Its very radical and twisted. Imagine this...imagine you were lucid in a dream and you were speaking with the other dream characters. First off, being lucid, you first need to "trick: yourself into buying into the dream to even continue speaking with others. Once you have done that and are now at a level of consciousness where there are others- you then go about telling them they are in a dream right now and they can awaken from the dream! Of course in the back of your mind you are conscious that you are just playing a game with yourself. So how do you think the dream characters are going to react to you telling them its a dream? Ironically you would be entertaining yourself when they react negatively because you as Consciousness are rendering the entire dream. Therefore even the other characters' reactions are projections of Mind. So there ya go Oh by the way..don't take any of this as a belief - it can be discovered directly