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No. Connor was not awake. He never awoke to God. He was delusional

@Crane Bahnsteik be careful. That does not mean he was not enlightened. Its a matter of bring able to relate on the personal level. Its sinply a human skill and nothing more. Be careful to not create the idea of what an awakened being is in your mind. It's a trap.

He had a bias strong enough to prevent his own awakening. It's not his fault. It's his ego.

The Point is to make a distinction between God Realization and personal development They are two.separate entities. That's not to say that when you awaken to God you will shoot up a school You will not, because to awaken in the first place you have had to have been ready for the level of God revelation that was revealed. You will already be Good for Goodness itself to a certain degree The Point is that personal development is a separate axle or trajectory . Now, here is the curve ball: Ultimately they must align as one That is the singularity

Life is not black and white. The Absolute is But reality doesn't work that way. If you live your life in the black and white you will.never get anywhere. In life flexibility is everything

It's not defense, its respect for a legend of this forum.

Enough.

I second this - check my post above. This is not a discussion to discuss how woke @Nahm is or what he did on his own site That's his business. Let's cool it with that or the thread will be locked.

U think?

@Tim R love you..the bears are the best.

It is against forum guidelines but he wasn't doing it in an overly, troll like manner to where it was a red flag for Leo. To Tim's point let's not get into the logistics of his wokeness or what he did on his site. It's irrelevant for this discussion

@Happy Lizard self promoting was not a probkem Everyone has to make a living. That's a separate issue and not why Leo made the decision

I think you are conflating giving your authority away with soaking up knowledge. Knowledge is second order - but you..yes you..should soak it up..if you have no idea what the self reference problem is you have no.chance of awakening. It's no surprise that squirrels are.not enlightened.

Then I guess the videos and guided exercises are useless..a course by Leo would be useless , and this forum should just be reduced to mindless chatter Yes ultimately to awaken one must turn inward but a framework to.set the stage is.extremely important.

No one is sitting on anyone. Nahm is a brilliant guy. It's just in the way I feel he was able to relate to people. I think as mods we all have shortcomings. If any of you guys want to provide positive criticism on myself or any of the mods feel free I will try to learn from it. I know personally I can be arrogant sometimes and that's something I work on. Leo has been criticized plenty so we don't have to worry about that lol

Yes but would you tell someone they are already enlightened and enlightenment is just a thought? Do you think this is going to help.someone become God realized? He would then say God Realization is just a thought. The key thing is that thought should not be demonized Thought is what we use for understanding. Yes paradoxically, it is in not knowing that one finds God and knowing (meaning Being is knowing). But that does not.mean knowing should be demonized or that it can't be used to aid on the path to not knowing. Spiritual practices must be used in conjunction. Direct experience.

Careful to get lost in a story that has enlightened masters..one who is the most awakened. Step outside of that. Go meta.

I love him to death as a person as well..but it just seems like he felt he needed to be involved in every single thread even if there was nothing of substance to say. So he just Injected the neo advaita talk..which honestly is not going to be of any help to anyone. It's better to not post in a thread rather than to just insert the Absolute into every post when we are speaking at a relative level- language after all is dualistic. It just seemed that this got worse and worse, to the point of madness for him. Maybe it was some type of unhealthy addiction to the forum, I'm not sure - or maybe this is just where his head is at..always in the Absolute and out of touch with reality. I think Leo made the right decision, but as I said, I love @Nahm and wish him the best.

@RevoCulture very easy to answer. The question to me is that if you have become directly conscious that the Self is Love, Goodness, integrity, and selflessness- why do you continue to be a devil after awakening? The ego was made to be the devil. When you awaken as Truth and return to the ego, it is very counterintuitive to begin to embody its true nature - which is God, and that the ego self was deception. It finds it much easier to continue to be the devil. It's like skiing uphill...you have to go against everything the ego is. Stop being so damm selfish! Easier said then done the devil refuses to die..it has a very strong survival need. If you are able to become totally selfless, the devil would cease to exist and it cant have that!!

The very fact that you are limited right now asking that question is what makes you as God smile. That's Omnipotence. That's power. You fail to appreciate that true power is in limitation not going full blast. Full blast is easy for God - boring. Limitation, now that's what it's about.

It can give you that in the sense thst it can put you in touch with your true Self because the anxiety of the ego is gone and the ego is always fighting Truth....but that said it won't allow you to have deep awakenings. It dulls your consciousness. Drink in moderation if you are going to do it all. It will kill your body in the long run. It's terrible for your health. For awakenings you want consciousness to be crisp and clear.

Agreed... @Nahm .the you is not the the ego the You is God/Infinity.

I am you and you are me. We have been through this. You are fixated on a person having consciousness and their "own" perceptions. Perceptions aren't "yours" as the ego. The ego is the illusion that has co-opted. They are just God or the universe . Your not ready for this discussion so there is no point in further discussion.

Don't you see? It MUST be absurd! Infinity does not make logical sense. That's a feature not a bug..Because it is PRIOR to logic. Logic is something it dreams up. You have to BE the Truth..you can't rationalize it. Then it will reveal itself to you.

Exactly