Inliytened1

Elegant is it not? The Realization of which is the end of all suffering

It's exactly like a dream you have at night. Your not conscious that you are dreaming the whole thing until you wake up. While dreaming you are playing some character within the dream. But there was always one Mind.

@Someone here your just running into the limits of where you can go with knowledge and logic which will always be partial and finite. Ultimately to achieve omniscience and total certainty it is necessary to transcend logic into Being. Knowing/not knowing collapses into Being.

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Yes but rarely now and if I ever do i catch myself pretty fastI i went back and edited to mention there is Integration work post awakening...enlightenment is a magic pill but it doesn't work overnight. It does in a sense but then the ego has to return and integrate Truth into its everyday life..but once Truth is seen it cannot he unseen - although the ego will try its damndest it can take years of integration work- it depends on where one is on the path.

True...Consciousness is a shapeshifter. Once it is realized that you are Consciousness and not the individual shapes, once is free to incarnate as any shape and embrace that shape..to fully experience what it is to be that shape, ultimately returning to source to play the game again.

Before enlightenment chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment chop wood, carry water. Only this time there is no more suffering because you realize that suffering is part of the ego mind and to me a direct result of selfishness. You can go meta on the ego mind because you have "actually" transcended it. It takes integration work post enlightenment, don't get me wrong... As for the body it resides within Mind, ultimately.

Can you elaborate?

When I first discovered It in one particular awakening I was terrified of going insane. I almost did... Because there was absolutely no difference between anything. The duality of self/other completely collapsed.

It dissolves (otherwise known as enlightenment) when you become directly conscious, via self inquiry, that the self or localized consciousness (form) was an illusion - that the self was an illusion. You will never be able to pinpoint it because it's not actual. Once this is directly realized you will stop identifying with the self and it will cease to exist for you because it was illusory. You can then (in the same awakening or in a different one) realize directly that you are Actuality itself/Awareness itself, AKA nfinite Consciousness. That's enlightenment in a nutshell - but these realizations are actual at the level of Pure Being...( Mystical / kundalini, etc) not conceptual. You shall become a mystic

Yeah it does... that's exactly what I thought when i first heard the term - it does include all finitudes...now - It can limit itself and know the finite by being finite but then its no longer in an infinite state...so that's what is meant by it cannot know the finite...but In that sense yes it can know the finite by being finite..

What is unlimited is unlimited. It cannot be less than that or it will not be unlimited.

I think that once you are God realized you are conscious that death is Absolute Love and Infinity so there is really no more suffering. Yet by the same token there is no particular reason NOT to embrace form. To NOT embrace what is is to create a duality and want something else which counterintuitively is also selfishness. See God is sorta in a bind as a self. It knows selflessness is Love but it also knows that self is Love. Either is Perfect. That's how the bind is resolved. Just Be and embrace what you are

I don't think you get my point. You can't. But I think you knew that already and are just being silly asking for proof of God. And your right none of this should be taken as belief. Another thing you know.

Make the donkey looking in the mirror realize it's his own reflection

I think he does but feels if you are awakened with meditation alone you are one of the few spiritually gifted. I was one of those and I agree with him there but it is my intuition. But it's not as black and white as that...i feel there are a lot of factors involved...genetics, but also life experience and level of suffering, which should lead to one becoming more conscious and thus less selfish as they realize selfishness is what causes suffering.

Haha and you make all great points as well- Your one of my favorite guys on here oh wait is God allowed to have favorites? Yeah why not? Love ya

Well first off realize that this is a dream so awakening others is just part of the dream itself. All others are projections of your Mind in the Absolute sense. So it's entertainment for the God-realized. So realize the desire to awaken others is an egoic desire....Nothing wrong with that.. But as the pure Infinite singularity that you are there is no need to awaken others because there are no others.. now back to the relative - That said...I feel that an individual will awaken when they are ready. Whatever ready entails for them. So if they willingly come to you and want to know about spirituality then I think you can teach it but ensure you also teach the dangers so that they know what they are getting themselves into first....make sure to stress all aspects of spirituality...but yeah after that I think it's awesome ?

Actually I don't tell "normies" anything anymore haha...if someone wants to know something about spirituality and asks me sure, but I realized a long-time back that these are delicate Truths that should never be forced on anyone... As for the Neutral description..ehh..I prefer Infinity or Love. Ain't nothing neutral about your finite body exploding from the power of Love/Infinity Also - ya seem to have an idea in your mind on how an "awakened one" should act. But God can do whatever it wants - if it wants to play around on a forum why not? All of reality is God's playground..Seems like you are still creating a duality in which God should act a certain way and not some other way.

Dang what a long post haha!! Yeah terror is not an Absolute - however what you gotta remember is that God is looking through your eyes right now as the ego. And as the ego it has gone its entire life thinking it (God) was a separate self. You see, in actuality God and the ego are one and the same. So in actuality once you are God realized the concept of transcending the ego melts away. You can choose to embrace your ego at this point because you are God and the line between God and ego blurr. You are simply God in form, and you can align yourself with Yourself via form. There is no need to banish the ego. Just be more conscious as God in finite form. Become more selfless, as much as is possible in finite form since there is still the requirement of survival. So yeah the when God wakes and reality is completely recontexualozed, it can still feel terror and awe of itself ...in fact that's what God wants..to experience the relative- God needs to know itself through itself! It needs to know terror (and awe) which is why it puts itself to sleep in the first place! Love ya too!!

@WaveInTheOcean beautiful

Aloneness/Oneness is both beautiful, perfect, and also terrifying. Because God is all things. God is terror, shock, surprise, wonder, perfection...etc..it's EVERYTHING. It is also the ego!! Surprise!!.. it's OK for God to feel terrified the first time it realizes there is nothing outside of it! It IS it's own mother! And it IS it's own son! It IS everyone in this forum, and the forum itself!! And It IS evil! It IS torture, rape, war...to discover there is absolutely no separation between anything and itself, that it is One. Is shocking. But it's ALSO Absolute Bliss, Goodness and Love simultaneously!!!! Because it's EVERYTHING. This isn't ego or delusion. Notice it is YOUR bias that excludes terror about Oneness/Aloneness (notice alone = Al-One) that is actually ego not the other way around! The realization of Oneness is extremely profound and radical and if you haven't hit the floor in both Love/Bliss and terror, shock and awe than you probably ain't awake!

You are probably very spiritually gifted, especially if you had an awakening spontaneously without any spiritual practices. But awakening is often a lifetime in the making, and learning about spirituality is just the straw that breaks the camel's back.

Nice!! Yes. it will be complete understanding of all of reality without thoughts. Because it is prior to time and space in which there is an individual having a thought. The ego completely dissolves. So it sounds like a glimpse yet not a total awakening.

Then you don't know it at the level of Being yet. Whole different ballgame You will wanna run and hide from yourself but there will be nowhere to run. Momma can't save you cuz she is you.