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I would agree from the standpoint if the ego wants awakening what happens is the ego will co-opt awakening for itself and turn it into an egoic goal or pursuit - thus paradoxically moving one further away from actual awakening.

Sure but why is paradox a problem.. we can and will encounter paradox all over the place. I'm simply stating that awakening has to come without thinking too hard about it. Like when you ride a bike you are not thinking about how you are working the pedals..if you did you would probably get in your own way...rather you are just being.

@Javfly33 your answer is in the title of your post. "No matter how hard they try" Stop "trying" trying comes from ego. And awakening is God realizing itself. Also take a listen to Leo's latest video on paradox. Consider you might be coming at this trying to "know" enlightenment. Notice I said "trying to know". Just live and let things flow. Continue the practices but stop putting pressure on yourself. It is not yourself that will have the realization. Stop "thinking or obsessing" about it. It is not found via thought.

It's not a denial of anything it is an Awakening that you can have as God to a particular facet of Truth. That this is precisely a dream and all of it is being held within God Consciousness and God Consciousness is none other than what you are. It's just that right now you have imagined otherwise - that you are a human self with other human selves. Self/other is just another duality that can be collapsed. It may seem like a word game but I assure you it is the furthest thing from.

That's what i was pointing to yes. But while the ego is there, even though awakening is ego dissolution, (the individual does not awaken, rather God does) - the ego returns. It is never the same though. There is kind of a fusion of God and ego. Oneness.

You are doing this as God as I pointed out earlier. But to become ignorant again is to completely forget you were omniscient. It must be total.

Indeed..It's just a game. You can still chase things in a video game - it's actually more entertaining because you know it's a game but you can still allow yourself to get immersed in the game. That said - be careful not to take what is being said as a belief. Become directly conscious of it for yourself.

Why would God forsake itself ? To live the dream I guess...it undoes its own awakening all the time. That said would a God realized "human" do that? What is seen cannot be unseen - and besides - why would a liberated "individual" put themselves back into ignorance and suffering?

God/You are dreaming up all of reality. To become directly conscious of it is to awaken from the dream.

Character "issues" have nothing to do with the teachings themselves. No teacher is perfect. All teachers are finite. And besides the teachings aren't about you.

U are God. U r me. U r Love. Of course you know. Who else fucking would?

@Swarnim God loves to dream...it can only dream it is finite. So ironic - we dream that we can be perfect..God has that and dreams it is imperfect.

@justfortoday and all you can do is share it with yourself From you to you- Congrats and thanks for sharing the love

Notice that is still a story you are spinning although you do intuit it.....it just has to click one day that Red is Red.. Atoms are part of the story.

Red is RED. There is no experiencer. It is itself.

It's the Love of God. That is Truth. And it is so perfect that it will bring you to tears...and when you weep it is because you are aligning with your true self as God and the ego has begun to melt away. Have you ever noticed that maybe growing up you suppressed crying..yet as you aligned more with Truth the tears began to finally flow - like a river to the ocean? This is because the ego is false and has to deny Truth to stay the ego. But the more honest and selfless you become the more you shall weep - because you are shedding the disguise and finally becoming Yourself.

@roopepa dope. Total consciousness is Infinity so ifs beyond the finite minds reach. When the finite mind reaches it it becomes Infinite. The paradox is that you are God/Infinity right now but you decided to take a specific form and thus sacrificed inifnify or Absolute Love.

its gonna click for you one day, and when it does, its going to be the most beauitful thing ever.

@Holygrail this is extremely profound. To get this is awakening. So..to grasp this existentially I recommend Leo's "what is perception" video If one watches this video enough times and "they" actually "get it" one will actually have enlightenment right there. "They" as the perceiver will dissolve and there will be just pure Being or Absolute Truth. Isness. RED IS itself. That's all there ever was and is right now, your just not conscious of it because your busy imagining your a human.

It's not that it's left out its that infinity will never be able to explore itself to the "end" because it is Infinite. (There never was an end!l This is not a bug but a feature of Infinity as the others pointed out.

But eternity has no self to endure... It has no form to "continue on forever" ..forever is a dualistic notion because it implies time. And there is no time until God imagines it. It's just Pure Infinite Love. Infinite Consciousness. Infinite isness.

Nice on the realization. I'm glad your staying ?

It's just a game. He's playing the game. To discover it's a game is shocking and comes with maturity. If you are not mature chances are you will never discover its a game to begin with.

It is a miracle.. "Oh my God" is pretty much all I can mutter... It will bring you to your knees in tears. It is too powerful for the human body.

@GreenWoods well said