Inliytened1

Christ is imaginary. I was going to tell you this in your other post. If you continue to post nonsense you will be banned. All religions are imaginary.

Yeah..i mean brute force methods like 5-MeO could simply annihilate the ego and bring instant ego death and God Consciousness - I don't know how true that is though since my awakening was sober. I still think you have to be ready for God. The sober way I believe has to be via the element of surprise.

This is all wrong. You don't get an enlightenment experience. You die. And there is only God or God Mind. So your ego trying to come up with ways will fall short I'm afraid because the ego knows what's coming. The ego is the Deceiver. The ego is the Devil. And yet it is you - so here in lies the paradox and dilemma. What happened for me is I stumbled onto spirituality and began the practices from a place of curiosity and then awakening took the ego by surprise when the insight that the self was an illusion was directly realized it triggered something mystical. The veil of the ego fell away leaving Pure Divine Consciousness. There were also glimpses such as the Wind of God moving through Me or my body convulsing uncontrollably from Infinite Love and Power exploding the finite body from within. But this gave way to calm waters and a seamless ego death - resulting in the basking in Divine Consciousness where understanding requires no finite thought. Where are only Pure Truth dwells. And rebirth will follow. But again this isn't something that can be forced ASAP. This is basically telling the ego it's going to die. It has to be done from a place of sincere curiosity into the nature of Truth and reality. Because there is a gentle part of the ego too - after all the duality of ego and God must collapse and they are ultimately one and the same. So it must come from the part of the ego that is God trying to remember what it is. This is curious not knowing and inspection. And if you can sit in silence that's fine but don't do it for an enlightenment experience do it to understand and investigate - an investigation but without any pre-conceived notions.

@Someone here you can understand reality completely - but it is in not knowing- so you are correct. It is at first order - or the level of Being. Now, you can use self inquiry meditation to become first order - or do nothing meditation. But ultimately omniscience is possible. This will result in the falling away of the ego- which will then return - scorned. But alas, at long last you will be liberated. This will answer all questions and there will be no more questions. No more suffering or fear of death at the highest level. (Your ego will still play games but you have the ability to go meta - its not the same as before You awoke) The tricky thing is it can't come from ego which wants to force things and at the deepest level it is the Deceiver and wants to keep you from Truth. And so It has to be the falling away of the ego through surprise. This is the dilemma. How do you remove yourself when the thing you are trying to remove is you. (At the same time, it's not because it is an illusory veil blanketing Truth). But ultimately if you cut off the conceptual mind the dilemma is lifted.

Self inquiry. Do nothing meditation. Concentration meditation. I did it for two weeks. But I was 48. You are what 25? There is a lifetime of experience and suffering that accompanied those two weeks. There was also love.

Wake up. It's simple. When you wake up you will not have to disprove it. It will be before your eyes.

Indeed ?

By Being which is prior to knowing. This is mystical. But Pure Being itself can't be logically given to you you have to become it..meaning by dissolving concept and knowing- and who can "know"? Ony a self can know and what is the self but an idea or a concept! So Being is accessed (or one becomes Being) by dissolving the conceptual self. This is done via deconstructing or self inquiring. But also by quieting the mind through meditation and not "knowing" but sitting without thought.

If there is no self there is no other. There is only Mind. You don't really have a point of view at all you just think you do. And you will dream and dream different points of views but it always be the same unchanging Infinite Consciousness.

Yes everything is right here and held within your Consciousness..or better put just Consciousness. All Consciousness has to do is make a shift and it can be all of it or a tiny sliver. This is why God is the Master of Deception.

You will die but also return. You will be re-born. I doubt Massaro is actually enlightened

Here's where I go Socrates on your ass. It's about not knowing. And in not knowing you will leave Socrates in the dust - a figment of your mind. But know this- do you really want that? Because you have to die to become the Truth

Because you haven't listened. Not to all of it and not with an open mind. Trust me - what is here will thrust you beyond philosophy, logic, and academia. It will thrust you into turquoise - into the mystical realm. But hey - don't listen. It's no skin off my back.

Are you serious? You make a mockery of God. If you realized directly that God was real you would never be the same again. The biggest thing is you will never fear death again because you will know it is an illusion. You might actually want to jump in front of a train because you will know God is Infinite Love. But I don't recommend that. The reason is once you have become Infinite you also realize that your finite life is really the pinnacle of your existence. It is in imperfection and finitude that God finds solace. And thus you will cherish your finitude because in that is your perfection but also in that you can have imperfection. So God can have his cake and eat it too.

He wasnt enlightened. And even if he was who cares. The best material is here. The material here goes far beyond Nietzche..or Descartes, or any of them. They weren't mystics sadly.

No...it's just that science has consumed our culture. It will be hundreds of years before we have a society of enlightened beings who understand that reality is made of mind and not matter. We are hundreds of years away from idealism - maybe a thousand years.

Excuse me but sit and do nothing meditation works as well. Quieting the ego is all it takes.

He has that too he just has one weakness. Age.

Dude we are a family here and I love you like a bother I really do. I've seen you grow here from the beginning and become a wise member of the council (like the Council of Elrond hehe) . So I'm sorry for my comments as well. I don't know you - you're right. I'm only going off my intuition - but I do know that my intuition is very high. And I also know you are decades younger than me so from an experience perspective my intuition tells me you are caught up a bit too much in Leo and not the teachings. My intuition also tells me your mind is more open than all of us put together and you ARE and HAVE absorbed and grasped the teachings to some extent. There is more to go... But this is a strength I would wish all of us had more of. So your enlightenment will happen with time.

What we have to make him realize - truly - is that there is no Leo. The avatar or form of Leo is simply a means to an end for God to wake up. God is you and God takes all forms - like a shapeshifter.

It is perfectly possible because you are God. You make the rules. And you break them.

To OP self deception runs deep. It will make you think that the teachings here are a sickness. This is all part of the dream and part of your own self deception to keep you far away from enlightenment.

You wanted to know how to wake up and I'm telling you how.

@Thought Art you are enchanted by the teacher and not the teachings. You wil never awaken until you realize that Leo was just a figment of your mind trying to wake you up.

It is and can bring you fo God realization. But stop there. Because once you reach God realization the rest about Leo is null and void because he, as is your parents and everyone else, are discovered by you to be figments of your own Consciousness trying to wake yourself up. So who Leo is as a person is immaterial. For that matter when you obtain God realization what you are as a person is also immaterial.