Inliytened1

I thought you said there couldn't be minds because it was open infinity

Just fucking with him, shit. Sword is sheathed.

@Breakingthewall So which one is it? Do you still believe in a physical universe? Fool. If you do i would beg you come forward now and kneel so I can take your head.

- Sounds like will to me. Just saying. Bro do a retreat or something.

That is will. You won't escape Infinity. You wont evade God. Ultimately you will come to know that he wills everything in your existence But the catch is he is yourself. He isn't a deity in the sky he is before you now. For judgement. Do with him what you wish

I have..it's easier to bullshit with you guys. What the fuck else matters but reality.

Yes precisely! But isn't this Will in a weird sorta way. "It cannot be described in any other way" means to me it is willed a certain way. Now yiu can claim it is a way without will, but still - you are choosing one way over another. I want you to at least acknowledge that. I see your brilliance and I see how awake you are. But I want you to see that.

So it's just there. Existence? You cut it to the quick. Afterall, you are here trying to explain it. So there must be a method to the madness. Pure madness is just that.

I do see it. You do not truly appreciate the openness. This must allow for Will.

It's more like you are.

Yeah. I'm a CTO at a leading IT company and all I have done today is talk with @Wilhelm44. And you. I am just lucky because i have stayed there 20 years now and pretty much kept it going all this time.

To pull the plug on Neo and watch him break out. It sounds almost Jesus like now that you made me say it myself.

Its just an open unfolding Infinity to him and he isn't wrong. But he hasn't yet seen any type of focus. God can focus on something. He lacks that. Because he wants to eliminate any possibility of any will.

The no self stuff.

Yeah .why press it. It isn't going to awaken anyone. I mean, do the no self guys do marketing?

Still wanna see what she has to say 😀

Be humble that's what it means. No one is an authority here. We are all learning from each other.

When you put it that way both possible and impossible are both correct. So I guess we are both right.. @Joseph Maynor see. It came from him afterall.

Let's she what's she's got.

She's not gonna win the debate about permanence. I think you stabbed yourself in the foot there.

Don't get scientific on me 😞

Intuition.

Her? Didn't realize she was a she. Anyways - I'm not disputing permanence. Once you wake up from a dream could you ever dream the same way? Let me ask you this. Could you forget you were dreaming again and fall back into the dream, well - that's what God does to keep you sane. He allows you to dream again. Otherwise you would go crazy. So..whatever they tell you - I'm telling you they aren't in that same God state anymore . We talk about God Consciousness all the time here. It's because you are not always in it otherwise there would be no differentiation between God Consciousness and human Consciousness. A 24/7 God state would probably lose you of all self desires and goals which includes survival. So they can tell you all day how permanent it is. The realization is permanent but states change and are impermanent. That's how you can be immortal.

But you just gave a map when you said it was infinite and groundless. All we have here are maps. But if I gave you two maps. One that led to water and one that led to the desert where you would die of thirst - which map would you follow. Either way- you have a map in your hand.

Because again he isn't currently, or i should say, the lack of him, isn't in a state of depersonalization right now. He was but now he has returned with the knowledge that he never existed. Mysticism and spirituality are a real thing. States of consciousness are a real thing. He had the realization and yeah now he can share it with the world. But notice something- "he" can share it with the world. So I'm trying to tell you that reality is comprised of states of consciousness. He is saying its just this. He is very limited with what he can teach you. He might be very good at dissolving no self. But that is just one awakening. There are more to be had. That is just the beginning. Have you listened to Frank Yang? A lot of folks get benefit from him too. But it sounds like you are taking it in from all teachers and that is good. That is how the nut cracks.