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Of course he can but I think everyone should back off the fascism kick look where it got the left. Now they look like the definition you posted not the right. The shooter was being a fascist without even being conscious of it.

Lol. You're in some fantasy world.

I don't agree with what Kirk was pushing at all but over time as Leo said this could emotionally damage someone- then compound this with what the left is pushing and you get what we have here. Both sides are to blame however I'm specifically disputing the left's viewpoint on the current government. Its guys like @zazen and others that invoke fear that something like a Nazi Germany could and is the process of happening here when it's not. But that is what is being portrayed - and being an ally of Israel feeds into it when they call what Israel is doing a genocide. Its an easy way for them to scream fascism.

Where has the US engaged in forceful opposition? If you are saying it could happen when you are speculating.

Well bro your boy just really damaged your whole persona because now the left look like the demons not the other way around. All this fear of the devil manifesting manifested the devil in the worst way. The right is not to blame for this- which is gaslighting. Nice try though.

If the classic definitions don't adequately fit the current government then there is no "then again" or anything to stop in its tracks. This is problematic and we are seeing it play out here. With violence.

I don't disagree with that.

There is a lot fear mongering on the far left that have portrayed Trump as an upcoming Hitler. Plus the radical right views on transgenderism . When you combine those it could really instill fear that those rights could be taken away.

My position is the fear mongering on the left leads to what we see could happen like we saw here with a young man getting struck down for speaking his mind

Then be careful about your comments like earlier in the thread.

If he wrote fascist on the bullet I take maybe he understood what that was. Maybe he didn't. All I can say is people pushing that whole agenda should be very careful.

Fascism is generally defined as a political movement that embraces far-right nationalism and the forceful suppression of any opposition," Edited 15 minutes ago by Elliott Per @ElliotFascism is generally defined as a political movement that embraces far-right nationalism and the forceful suppression of any opposition,"

No it's not. Hitler was a fascist. There aren't many other regimes i can equate that to. But Leo just fed into why Kirk died by calling the current regime in America fascist. It is not. It appears to be and may be messed up on many levels but there is a difference. What people like Leo are doing are poisoning people's minds into believing this a direct threat to your survival so what the heck do you expect.

Is the current regime facism? I don't think so. Trump is a glorified Putin. He's Americanized. He wants power. But more importantly he wants his corporation to thrive and his daughter to win the Bachelorette. He's not Hitler. But guys like Kirk go around spreading the crap Leo is spreading and what do you think happens. Lots of bad stuff. Leo dial it back

The logic is as follows: Imagine if I called Charlie Kirk a fascist and then some psychopath shot Kirk with a bullet with "fascist" written on it. Does that mean I am now not allowed to call anyone a fascist? Let's not use the term racist here let's use fascist. So I replaced your words. Yes you would not want to do that for obvious reasons. But notice how it.is different depending on the word. So nice try trying to change it up .

That's not fair. Kirk subscribed to the rhetoric.

Not entirely sure how it can stand after that but OK. Willing to see multiple perspectives.

I hate to break this to you but the dude wrote fascism into the very bullet casings that killed Kirk.

K.

I think i had it worse with sleepy joe.

Well, effectively the left has vanished in this period because the right has almost full power...And has any of this happened? What happened to your feared project 2025? The closest thing that has happened is troops in the city- which had an end date of the end of the year. So from that perspective all this fear mongering - and that's what i will call it here - directly feeds into the reason why guys like Kirk are dead.

Well Leo calling the right fascist even in this very thread does not help this effort. It really can brainwash people into thinking that society is doomed if the left does not prevail. Some people (even the very few) - the 1% will take things literally to the core. It's gonna take a bipartisan effort to curve hatred.

Fair. I didn't say Biden caused it i said he wasn't fixing it. And I realize now that fixing inflation is a losing effort by both parties but growing the economy is the answer which hasn't happened under this administration. I understand that Trump claims the tarrifs will ultimately lead to a stronger economy and thus higher salaries to combat inflation but i honestly don't have a lot of faith in that. What does this have to do with violent propaganda being pushed on both sides? Its being pushed on both but we are on a very left forum so it's very valid to point that out here

I think he meant that he hoped he wasn't from Utah. Still it introduced tones of bias and racism into it. It's so obvious.

Seriously? Kirk shooting? You guys baffle me