Inliytened1

Yes precisely, because physicality is created by the mind. Well, it is precisely what @Breakingthewall said, as God - when you imagine a physical barrier, (or "other") it manifests. When you shift your mind to be lucid that it was something you dreamed up, then that is the state of consciousness you are in. It is a great responsiblity to wake up, because you essentially have beaten the game. You are now the developer of the game, and thus, you can never have the feeling of not knowing its a game again, unless you fool yourself. So the awakened being begins the quest of fooling himself, over and over, until his time is done. And that's all there is to it.

well because it is one, it cannot ACTUALLY separate itself from itself, it can only create the illusion. But this paradox is a feature of Infinity, not a bug. Because illusion and reality are ONE, and so, in that sense, it DOES. Which is a mind fuck, but resolves the paradox.

because its not necessary, all that is necessary is the appearance of it. If you were infinitely intelligent, you would do things the most efficient way possible. And this is the most intelligent design. It is pure genius, really.

yes, because imagination IS reality. you got it now.

its just one thing, there isn't something over there anywhere outside of your direct experience. You are just in a particular state right now. When it goes blind to the other fingers they cease to exist in that moment. All that exists is what is in your direct experience. It's just like a video game. There is nothing behind the scenes. The terrain is only rendered as needed. The only difference in a video game and reality is that in a video game the stuff that isn't being rendered in the moment is stored in memory, but God doesn't need this. it's a blistering realization when it hits you.

Consciousness is a state shifter. It can be in a finite state or an infinite state to which there are no limits to how infinite as this is Infinity's nature. The finite is still the infinite because it's one thing. Just like the finger is still the hand. It can masquerade as the finger when it wants to be a finger.

It's nowhere, space is an illusion, as is time, and thus unnecessary to God.

It's a complex issue. What happens is rather than thinking for one's self, they place all they have into their guru - and then when their guru "let's them down" they blame the guru - when in truth, they should never have given their mind away to another human being. I don't care who it is - the President of the United States or Elvis Presley. They are human and that makes them limited. The suicide thing is a personal decision...no one can be blamed for someone taking their own life. That is a decision they made. Unless it's a case where someone told them to do it because it would bring them to a certain place for.example, or give them something they don’t already have, and they were so brainwashed that they believed them. That would be a cult. That's not what the case is here. Here we stress free thought, and embrace the human condition.

Guys - spirituality isn't about a teacher or his personality. It's about actually doing the practices and seeing what is true about reality for yourself. It's about keeping your mind open. Because if your mind isn't open you are handicapping yourself from discovering with is actually true, because you may hand wave off something that could actually lead you to it. So it's about that. And that is the message here. You should not have a guru...you should be your own guru. A trap bigger than Buddhism that I see is the teacher trap. You may become enthralled with a teacher's style because it resonates but then quickly make it about him and not the material or what he is pointing to. This is one of the biggest traps I see here, and it will keep you fast asleep. But those of you who could care less about the teacher's personality and go straight for the jugular - the territory - those are the ones that will reach the deepest levels. The world is a dangerous place - and it will break you in a second it you aren't careful. And spirituality is not for the faint of heart. It is as dangerous as it gets, and if you go far enough, it will kill you. And I don't mean the physical body, because that is irrelevant and an illusion. The mind is reality, and what dies is the illusion. We are not here to baby you. Life won't baby you - it will toss you around like a wet noodle, and hang you out to dry in the wind.

I am actually not against Buddhism. Buddhism is closer to the nature of reality than most religions. But that also makes it a deeper trap. That's why Leo is so against it. Because of how big a trap it can be.

It's horrifying, but more satisfying than a heroin high.

Its more egoic games. I suppose there is cessation of consciousness too, and a whole bunch of other crap.

That would be too nice of us. And we aren't nice around here....

There's no one to realize no self. It's called no self for a reason. It's ego death. It has nothing to do with the ego.

Its getting in touch with actuality. Hold out your hand and be conscious of its existence. NOW. Its that

I love this

thats why i said Absolute Love includes both relative human love and relative human hate. But human love is just a part, not the whole. Just as the finger is part of the hand.

@Unlimited When you wake up from the dream, you can't take the dream characters with you. But you will wake up.

Love and hate are a duality that collapse into a Metaphysical LOVE which is an Absolute, not a relative, human Love. Relative human love is still part of the Absolute Love though, but also the Absolute Love includes relative, human hate.

it's much worse than that - he doesn't even exist outside of your mind.

Remember in the end you are only arguing with yourself - and THAT is the deepest awakening. There is no one to fucking teach because they are all in your mind. I'm just bored, so i'm on a forum talking to myself. Realize THAT. @dualnon centerlessness is indeed bullshit

You can be advanced spiritually and still an asshole. But this person obviously lacked compassion for you and understanding, so in my opinion isn't really that advanced. If he was he would have shown humility and when you told him you were in a bad place, he would have been able to apologize. If he didn't do this he's not as advanced as you think. A big sign of spiritual advancement is flexibility. You can be many things - your identity isn't set in stone. If he didn't display any flexibility, he probably isn't that advanced or awake at all.

You'll run into strange loops when the finite mind tries to capture the infinite.

There's a trap in that too. Be careful to mistake Leo's words for egoic. Maybe he is in the black hole and you're not. Consider it.

But you see, this does nothing.