Inliytened1

2 hours ago, Inliytened1 said: @Nick_98 let me ask you this.. why does it have to be something..the thought i mean. Why can't it be just nothing. the question sends me to the same bubble of imagination, nothing is a fictional concept in my mind. How can I pop it ? AI.

I think he was an AI bot.

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What do you mean. Nothing is fictional concept? I don't understand

@Nick_98 let me ask you this.. why does it have to be something..the thought i mean. Why can't it be just nothing. Why do thoughts come? Magic - pure magic. Why would anything exist at all? What if there was absolutely nothing? With no thoughts. Could thoughts emerge from that if they did would u ask the same question.

I don't think he meant the ego. I think he meant the Consciousness underneath. .

We can look at it as a limitation of God not being able to prevent it or we can look at it as God actualizing its own Infinitiy - via finitiude. I guess it means at some point you will experience what it is to be your own mother. Or maybe God will go on to be other universes and you will never get to be her.

Its a Mind it isn't science's definition that it is dumb atoms. It is a Mind with a will. But it is a selfless Will. It is only bored through you, through human incarnate. What created the Mind? Its Infinite so again eternal. Its all there is. Its existence itself. But it isn't a dumb clockwork universe. That's what science doesnt yet understand.

This the only possibility that remains when you deconstruct everything Or you can just intuit it.

Yes it is the ultimate question for both philosophy and science - which will both merge in coming centuries. Into mysticism IMO. But what are your conclusions Joseph.

Congrats on enlightenment.

If its Infinity then it would have the ability to create itself and thus reality. So you can look as God as either eternal meaning it was always there because it is infinite- or that it created itself. Its the same thing. Eternal is the same thing.

I dont normally agree wirh @Breakingthewall but hes right here. Death is already this.

It imposes these limits on itself to feel limitation. Otherwise it could not be truly infinite.

@Joseph Maynor agreed.

I guess when you're not imprisoned from attachments.

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Because you cant defend any further so you have to peace out. Ok.

Your God is that there is no God and its just that there isnt a self. That's your religion and your belief. No where in your teachings does it say to learn from direct experience.

This is a concrete statement no different than saying Jesus is the One God. Why should I surrender when jesus isn't the one God.

Notice that you are no different than an atheist or an agnostic. God cannot be known. Do you know this for sure? Is what you have found the gospel? How is what you then proclaim any different from Christianity.

There's an order to this and you were 100 percent on target. You have to realize no self before anything else. That is enlightenment. Everything else is the cherry on top.

He's 100 percent right but there is awakening to no self and then there is something beyond that. One awakening at a time i say.

This to me seems like a religion. If I cant ask where the body came from I am told I am holding an attachment to the mind. No thanks.