Inliytened1

Well we proved this wrong in previous threads. I thought this thread was supposed to be articles and postings. If you want to get into another debate there are other threads which already debunked this.

This is all that matters. If one could be omniscient but just once they would realize that all the money and all the power in the world mean nothing. Thank you for your wisdom.

Your statement solidifes this because Infinity has no limit to its dimensions. Thus how can you cap it or create a scale for it.

That was the order but there were plenty of mystical experiences and glimpses in between to where they merge together as One, as they should. So you're not wrong Ultimately it is Oneness afterall. But I don't like to look at things in terms of ratings. By giving enlightenment numbers I think it reduces and degrades what awakening really is in actuality. It doesn't work in terms of ratings. Anyway, Of course I was sober did you expect anything else? But the awakenings or realizations (realizations at a mystical level of Consciousness is a better description) didn't have different quality they were all of equal power even if they were all pieces to the puzzle. The great puzzle of Existence. And there were other mystical experiences I forgot to mention because these were the key realizations. But it all ultimately culminated into Absolute Oneness - and guess what that is? Love!! The whole experience is ineffable as you know. You don't need psychedelics for the whole thing that's a myth created by those who didn't access it sober. So...there's that. That being said I don't want to give psychedelics a bad name they could shift your Consciousness just as easily as meditation. Both are tools or triggers to what lies beyond.

It opened up like a mofo. I saw it all and i saw that it was all me. Its scary as hell. The ego was not there in that moment i was dead. I was helpless and couldn't drive or do anything. It had been hitting me in bits and pieces prior to that leading up to the big opening. Which was scary enough but that one moment. Man. I'll never forget that. Eventually I was able to come back and drive away. Since then all you can do is recover and take back the understanding.

Heres how it went for me the order is a little fuzzy This is kind of how it goes but in no specific orders: No Self realization (Enlightenment- ego death) The mystical wind - (spirit) Bliss - Divinity- amazing- miraculous- godlike - mystical Infinity - (The God Wind - Absolure Infinity - reeling on the ground for momma. You are Infinity and Infinity is reality. As a result of Infinity - its Consciousness - Consciousness continues to expand encompassing all. Its a dream. Everything is ideas not material reality. Mind blowing Nothingness. You are Absolutely Nothing ..as a result of Infinity (Devastating a feeling of complete emptiness) Complete Omniscience - grasping it all. Wonderful. You grasp it all in one go. God realization - You are God and are dreaming the whole thing. All of it is yours. Satisfying. Complete Oneness Solpsism) self and other duality collapses - it really hits you now. Yeah you were God. But you're fucking God. Like that's it. There's nothing outside of you.. Beautiful but terrifying. Ego returns. Somehow keep your sanity.

Thank you I will. But see once you are enlightened where are you going to go. So I can look at it but his path may not be my path and your path may not be his. But yes it did start with no--self. What was the final awakening for him?

Thank you brother glad to know you're there too. I wouldn't call it a limbo state. There is no reason to access God Mode so to speak or Divine Consciousness unless you are leaving the dream or you are awakening in my book. You're awake. So that's it.

I'm lucid but no I can't access Infinite Consciousness at will although I can feel it beginning I can make the beginning of it start but it won't go further because I have to die for that and the ego doesn't want to die To access that level of Consciousness again I would have to die which now the ego cannot be caught by surprise or curiosity again. It doesn't work that way.

No that was enlightenment. The realization of No-Self was the first im giving you total hours of actual meditation it could have been 16 but definitely no more than that for the whole thing. Once Consciousness was expanded the door was open. Further realizations didn't require a practice. I could be driving to work or sitting at my desk. Or meditating. The awakenings were over a 2 week period and then again the final one bout 2 months later this time spontaneously although I was doing some meditation in between. But the main enlightenment happened after just a day or two of meditation. The final one which you so sorely dispute. Solipsism. Happened on my way to work actually and I had to pull over. Because I realized I was completely alone. But let's leave that one out as that was the one two months later

I'm not sure where you got your answers from but when I asked AI (Claude AI) I got this - There's no clear scientific answer to this - individual variation would matter far more than sex/gender. Research on solitary confinement shows that psychological deterioration depends on factors like: Individual differences (regardless of gender): Pre-existing mental health conditions Previous trauma or stress exposure Personality traits (introversion vs. extroversion) Coping mechanisms and resilience Age and cognitive flexibility Situational factors: Duration and conditions of confinement Whether there's any sensory stimulation Previous experience with isolation Access to activities, reading materials, etc. While there are some gender differences in mental health statistics generally (women have higher rates of depression and anxiety disorders, men have higher rates of substance abuse), these population-level trends don't reliably predict individual responses to extreme stress like solitary confinement. Solitary confinement is considered harmful to virtually everyone when prolonged, with documented effects including anxiety, depression, hallucinations, cognitive impairment, and increased suicide risk - affecting people of all genders. The most honest answer is: it would depend entirely on the specific individuals involved, not their gender.

No I haven't. I didn't I just did it. And guess what? It wasn't 100 hours I might have been 4-8 tops. There wasn't a belief. So you're really grasping at straws here. .but even if...even If you really want to call this a New Age Religion - then I would say it is the culmination of science and spirituality combined. Or Science and mysticism combined as you put it. It is far far different than Christianity and you know it. I don't know who you are defending - maybe its even you. But you know it deep down. I know this first hand as I mentioned in the political forum my gf is a Christian and hardcore at that. So I know the Christian mind.

Dude what world are you living in? Yeah ask any Christian if they doubt that Jesus is their savior. I don't have an allergy to belief it just won't lead you to Truth because it's a concept. You seem to have this bias towards defending religion and that's fine. I'm just not sure why yet

I think its relevant as it started because group think or a retreat was questioned. So being alone was questioned. Then women vs men being alone. You should address this. Whats a thread if it can't run freely. We could have restricted it but you clearly aren't giving any solid answers to the retreat other than we are gonna smoke dope. So I say let it fly

That's nice but I really don't think it's real world.

Probably more. I don't care what AI says haha. You really can't determine it based on sex. Strength maybe but not emotions. Us guys are probably more fragile than women we just like to keep a wall up because that's the Masculine thing to do 😀

Leave it alone.

That women would go crazier first or that they are more scared than men. There are plenty of fearless women and I assure you that you will go crazier first when locked up. Women are quite resilient. They live longer afterall...remember?

I know you meant well but if you are going to make such claims back them with statistics.

@Hojo if you both were in solitary (you and a woman) she would probably drive you batty before the confinement did 😀 @Natasha Tori Maru @Emerald im kidding so go easy.

Guess you have to make it to Vegas to find out and be willing to smoke dope. Not sure.

Unserstood I haven't seen all the references you are referring to but like I said he probably has a hard time assimilating because the majority of the population isn't like him at all. So most will be beneath his level. That's not an insult its just reality Now that said he could phrase it better on here to encourage socialization but i don't feel it needs to be encouraged. There is nothing wrong with being alone. Too much isolation could turn into a problem and there needs to be some social interaction. But too much of anything can be a problem. You worry about this but you have no problem with him calling America Nazis.

Depending on your level of development it kinda does or doesn't. It can either dumb you down or lift you up. If you hung around Ramana Maharishi for a week I don't think it would make you stupid. So I'm with you there. But if you spent all your time talking to a Bible thumping Jesus fanatic it could dumb you down if you aren't careful. You are what you eat. Don't worry about what Leo says he says a lot of crap on here. Take it with a grain of salt. But he considers himself where he is and he probably is more advanced than the majority of society. He's put in the hours alone.

You make it sound like being alone is starving yourself to death. Whats really wrong with it? As I said I think its healthy to be able to exist alone because then as a man you will never be codependent or need to have someone there to be happy. It's fundamental actually. It doesn't mean socialization or having a relationship with another should be shunned but there is nothing wrong with either choice. As long as you can provide for yourself. There is another member of the forum that is completely happy living off the land in Europe I believe it's @Daniel Balan . Whether he has social relationships i don't know but that's his choice. The point is either should be OK as long as you can provide for yourself. No one is saying to go starve yourself on a mountain for enlightenment but if you do want to do that its your choice. You act like his listeners are complete idiots. To even be a listener here you would have to have a certain level of intelligence and awareness. I think you are the one over dramatizing things.

@Emerald i am not going to comment on his preferences regarding his social life and whether he chooses to be among people or not. But I can tell you from an enlightenment standpoint if he is going to hold a retreat it really can't be a group hug type scenario. If God realization is the goal he basically has to regurgitate his videos but in person. With a more personal touch. The whole group mentality is irrelevant because you would be there for the God realization teachings. Young guys here,, if they are here, and willing to attend the retreat, shouldn't be hung up on social development or personal development. If that's what they lack they shouldn't even be attending one of his retreats at all. He has said many times if you don't have your personal development goals handled or your basic life needs taken care of first then don't even involve yourself in spirituality. This would be about spirituality and spirituality alone. But on a personal note I actually salute him for being alone and not having to have someone there all the time whether it be a friend or a girlfriend. This is actually very paramount in a young man's growth - to be alone and be happy doing that. Because you can't have. a meaningful relationship with anyone if you can't be happy alone first.