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That's not necessarily true because I'm not set in stone on any way of thinking that's why I asked you. Always appreciate your well thought out posts.

But you don't think I can find where a leftist thinks Trump should face imprisonment or the death penalty? I mean they have been trying to.hang him since the Apprentice..so isn't this just more rhetoric by both sides? Why use it to attack his character as a human being?

And if you read further it says that Kirk frequently accused the Bidens of committing treason, which is punishable by imprisonment or death, according to U.S. law. So you are taking it out of context. Maybe we should then go back and see why he believed they were committing treason? Nice way to take things out of context.

A good guy is relative. He may have been a good family man and a good man in regards to beig true to his values and standing up for what he believed. @Lyubov this is a far cry from Nazi, Germany. If you're saying it or he could develop into Hitler you are just speculating here. The violence was potentially committed by the left if it comes out as so. Which i suspect it will although the left will continue to push the lone wolf theory or the theory he was too right. Just typical of the stubbornness of the left.

Can you post where he called for Biden's execution and your other claims where he calls for executions?

Enough said.

It's not that because actually I showed you where his limitations were from my perspective. Nothing could conflict with what was written in the Bible to him. This is is a huge problem but I won't get into it. I'm talking strictly from a human perspective. There was something good in this guy. I can't point it out to you. And maybe there is something good in the shooter. Maybe he'll spend the rest of his life reading the Bible in prison. How ironic would that be.

You can't fault him for his passion. To glorify him as a saint would be obviously wrong as well but he did have a lot of passion. His charisma added the interesting element I suppose.

I think because we all could tell he had a good heart inside regardless of his views. Or maybe it was his passion to spread that he believed. I know this same passion. I feel for his wife and kids. There was something about this guy for sure. I've done nothing but listen to his debates for the past few days and I feel like I started to get to know him almost. You can tell this guy was as passionate as it gets with his beliefs and wanted to do good. But..his views on certain things were skewed unfortunately and he was extremely vocal about them. To the point where he dominated debates over and over and even brought women in to debate the abortion side when women started getting good strikes in about women's rights.

I can't help but agree with this. But not for the reasons you think..is it really right to take away rights for them when for them it goes beyond ideology if you are in fact born in the wrong body? Kirk's strict adherence to the Bible limited him and forced him into a stance on transgenders which was inaccurate. But because he couldn't think outside Christianity he maintained an unsustainable stance. This is ultimately going to piss a lot of people off but combined with buying into the nazi rhetoric the left is spitting it morphs into the perfect concoction of violence. I'm actually very sad he is dead I see he had good intentions and I feel empathy for his family but also he inadvertently angered a lot of folks. Of course, that never justifies violence though.

The problem is it is associated with nazism and thus you get these young leftist running around calling the right nazis and it gets to be a little extreme. Even to violence which actually is counterproductive.

I am not buying this - this is absurd. I understand there is still stuff coming out but I'm not buying it.

I'd like to know this too...lol..he seemed arrogant but his takes on abortion i agree with although you can make an argument on both sides..with immigrants..well...thats honestly one i say is a complex issue that can't be so black and white. Just send them all back and then you have no crime from immigrants..well...its all a numbers game - no, there has to be some humanity. We have to take a strong stance and give citizens preference. I get it but for the ones already here with good records who are productive why send them all back just point blank without further review. Some may have been here for decades doing good things. There's a lack of nuance from Kirk in certain regards. And where Kirk went wrong is he was strictly by the book. The Bible. He didn't think outside of that as smart as he was.

It was only a matter of time before you lost your cool. Not a very good example of what you defend....hence the warning Leo gave you.

I went back and watched some of his debates at the universities. He did have some good points in some areas so not all of his stuff was in my opinion close minded. I think his allegiance to the BIble and Christianity limited him but that is what it is. I think he made some valid points on the Abortion argument. But you can argue that both ways. The problem is he never really gave the students a chance when it came to some of the arguments. But some of his points on Abortion and Immigration had merit. Although like I said you can make arguments for both sides.

This is silly. Are you going to show me an example? Or make me dig around the internet. The point is you are making politics humanity. It isn't. It's like saying the spiral dynamics model is Truth. There is a blend of all of these things there are just more or less of them depending on the individual.

It's worse? Go back and look at @Apparition of Jack words if you want to say the right is worse. Look no further than this thread.

And you don't think the conservatives have this too? Kinda silly to divide the lines like that - so black and white. So the conservatives have none of this then? At least @Joshe is nuanced in his responses yours are often thrown together haphazardly.

What i have leaned here thus far is that he's not a leftist (heavy deflection but maybe) and that maybe he was just some crazy loner like they labeled Oswald. In the end they're right - anyone who would do this isnt rational. But the subtle things behind what led up to this should be inspected. And of course here we have that Kirk said some things that were outright messed up. The real question is where do we draw the line between words and action based on those words? How radical should we be?

Let me get them there.

And what makes the liberal special in this case? What drives them? @Elliot this is for you too.

Dude as you enjoy your morning coffee please don't try and justify his death. I thought better of you 😔

Fear is what allows one to survive. So we all have fear. I think its greed, ego, and the egos lust for power and control that is stronger in that party. But it does exist in both.

A wise man once said it is wiser to remain taciturn. The left is generally more passive - and maybe that means more thoughtful but also maybe not. Trump through all his faults is a brilliant mind. Though his mind is empty when it comes to spiritual matters or Absolute Truth. He would have no understanding of these things. But that's why in the spiral dynamics model the left are placed higher. What Kirk was spouting was pretty bad. He was a radical. But to give you a similar story my mother is very similar to your co-workers. I won't discuss politics with her at all because she is so blinded by her own point of view.