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@GreenWoods reality is structured this way to make it real- and juicy. If someone just gave you the cheat codes it wouldn't be real.

Remember i said God is infinite intelligence so it does not do anything simply to torture you. Perhaps these experiences- while cruel to the ego - have helped you to be more compassionate for others - or it has helped you grow in some other way. Or perhaps it helped someone else grow and not you. It's hard to say why your father was abusive but that is only because you are only seeing the world from a finite perspective and because it caused the ego some type of anguish. But to say God will do this or that horrible thing, and that it's only a matter of time, is simply you guessing. You cannot disprove that all these terrible things you are imagining are all just imagination- no more than you could disprove me telling you death is imaginary.

An inference is not the same as actual. But by your own argument - it also means the possibility that none of these will ever be actual or directly experienced by God. They will only exist as thoughts.

I'm going to throw you for a loop. You agree that you are alone as God now, dreaming you are @Holykael right? And you also agree that this is a dream...there are no other conscious experiences happening. You are it. You are completely alone as God dreaming everything. Correct? All that exists is right now. Yes? What I'm getting at is that everything you are saying about these horrible atrocities and babies being raped and how many horrible things you are going to live through- can you not see that you are imagining all of this right now? Imagine if you were asleep in a dream and inside that dream you were thinking about all the horrible things you were going to experience- and how God is so terrible. And you started to freak out in the dream. But then you woke up and you realized it was just all a dream? You realized that none of it existed anywhere or had any real existence other than while in that dream. And now it was all gone..or...to be more accurate- it never existed at all other than in your imagination. You may have suffered a broken leg in your dream, or some other thing...but did everything else that you were freaking out about happen or was it only in your imagination? Can you really say you will be a baby being raped one day or right now is that only a thought in your imagination? Can you disprove what I am saying? Has death happened to you? Really be careful here - do not say it's for sure that one day you will die. Have you died as of right now? You can definitely accuse God of having one hell of a fucked up imagination - but that's about it - and that's what infinite imagination is.

How this sick abomination was not locked is beyond me. Dude - if you post anymore shit like this you are out.

This is wrong. Of course it's wrong. Of course! Infinity always has to have a way out. The highest state must be pure Understanding. There is no blindness.

It doesn't have to. I'm not saying a human is better than a rock - I'm saying I would prefer omniscience over being dumb. Of course, when you're as dumb as a rock you don't know any better, so it's as good as any state. And so in the Absolute sense you are right, there is no better or preferred state. But notice it took some consciousness to even come to such a conclusion. That is self reflection! Mind fuck 101!! ?

Yes, but that is no ego mind, not no mind. When you quiet the ego mind you have a shot at Infinite Mind. A rock is Mind just at a low state of consciousness- almost null but still consciousness. There is nothing but consciousness at different degrees. Even when you are asleep you are not uncoconscious - you're just in a different state. The really low states you may not even remember.

I would rather have more consciousness than less. The closer you get to an infinite state of consciousness the more blissful - because you will have more understanding and more insights. Being a rock would just be a bland existence. There really wouldn't be any ups and downs like you have with the ego - but it's those ups and downs that make it interesting. Rocks wouldn't have a chance at awakening - they really don't have the ability to self reference or go meta. That's an ability only given to the human.

@tuku747 he should have said "people like us, who believe in physics, realized that their beliefs were imaginary, right along side physics. And that even they themselves were imaginary. Imagination is absolutely encompassing. It engrosses all that you have seen, and all you will ever see - including the eyes from which you see it from. Only that which realizes this is the source of this Imagination. That would have been Einstein the Mystic- not Einstein the physicist.

You are my hero man. Absolutely hilarious as always. Keep up the good work Gonna pull a @Water by the River move here: P.S. Clown Consciousness will be the final Realization. You will roll around the floor crying like a little girl. Don't take my word for it - do the work. If you turn clownness into a belief or a religion, you have missed the boat. Clown Consciousness is derived from deep within. Stare at your hand for at least two hours a day for the next twenty years and you might have a shot at Clown Consciousness. Love ain't got shit on this facet.

Clown consciousness is the pinnacle of enlightenment. Even Love itself takes a backseat. The funny thing is - I'm being serious. God is a clown. What would God be without a sense of humor to cosplay is the ultimate satisfaction.

There is something else at play - something not quantifiable.

No no. Ever seen the matrix where he wakes up and realizes what he thought was reality was merely a simulation? Awakening is exactly like that, only it is the dream of an Infinite Mind - not a simulation in some computer somewhere in a physical reality So awakening is final. But then you can reach ever deeper levels of ecstasy by deepening your love for yourself through your understanding growing deeper - not through knowledge but through Love itself.... The Love is Infinite. That is how understanding gets deeper, Love IS understanding, and vice versa. So you must bring those two together as one.

A dream can have stability and consistency. That's what makes it "real". But what this really means is that there is nothing to contrast it. It is total. In other words, when in the illusion it does not appear to you to be an illusion. It is only after you step outside of it that you see what it is. It's all a mind fuck. God has to mind fuck itself and it does a perfect job.

You shouldn't need a school or a guru to bring you to the promised land. And also - none of this is awakening. This place has one goal and one alone - and this is to wake you up. It's not really about personal development. If you want that then yes, go find what you are talking about. But that's not what this place is.

Interestingly enough God can escape itself. That's where illusion comes in so nicely. So I guess God is of the omnipotent type

It IS spirituality. Leo Gura will surely die when you become God. You are God now, but you aren't in God Consciousness now - you are in Leo Consciousness. So unless you are saying you don't care about dissolving egoic behavior - wbich in that case you are right- that is all just a nice goal of the ego (counterintuitively) then I have to correct you. I think we do agree though.

You fell into a trap. You took it as a belief. That is NOT awakening! You have to awaken to Truth not be convinced of it. Be careful as the ego will even right now take Leo's words and either shun them or possibly turn them into a belief! The ONLY way, and I mean the ONLY way - to Truth is Yourself - meaning do the spiritual practices. Yes, be open and curious that perhaps this Leo character may possibly be one of the few teachers that can actually guide you in the right direction. His words may even trigger a spontaneous awakening if you are gifted enough - but your mind must first have to be open - and clear of any dogma - Then - and only then - you will BECOME the Truth - and you won't need to be convinced of it!

Watch the episodes on Relativism. Also check out what is Truth.

@ardacigin i mean picking something and staring at it for hours.

@Arthogaan the process will be blissful...so there is no need for anxiety. It's the ego that has anxiety- but there will be none of that in God Consciousness. The process of dreaming another dream is really irrelevant- because you as God will wipe your own memory clean and you will then be whatever form you are - just as you are now. You will not remember anything. It's better that way.

Nice

I would add 4 sauna sessions a week to this regiment ?

I can only tell you my own path. I stumbled onto Leo's work and began meditation and self inquiry. Self inquiry meditation and do nothing meditation with some concentration meditation. Getting in touch with actuality. The now. And with self inquiry you simply have to inquire into what you currently believe you are and you will slowly deconstruct your own reality. Just be warned because it is very serious stuff when you realize everything we talk about here is actually true. When that happens you will bring about your own death and wake up realizing your whole life and this entire reality is a dream. Because your existence was always conceptual in the first place. If you dare then, Just listen to the first enlightenment videos he put out all the way through to all the metaphysical ones. While meditating and or psychedelics. Peter Ralstons Book of not Knowing was one of the ones I did read but awakened midway through it.