Inliytened1

Spoken like a true gentile 😀 Well. It wasn't just Hitler. It was many before him that sought to destroy the Jews. Why? I don't see any horns. Why do we bug you so much. We are the kid that gets bullied in the playground because we're short with big noses and we only want goodness. We are like Carrie. But watch us explode.

It's not the Old Testament it's the Torah! The Tanakh. The books of Moses 😀 for the chosen peeps.

And taking the stance that the Absolute perspective is that it can't be spoken of is a position within the dream just the same as any other position within the dream. Its also neither materialism or idealism or that it is a dream or not a dream. Or that it is consciousness or not. That it can't be figured out. Seems pretty agnostic. For someone as logical and as deep a thinker as yourself I am shocked that this would trip you up.

That is your structure then, is it not? That there isn't one? Saying there is no position is a position. This cannot be escaped.

Ok..but if its consciousness then it's a dream. Do you concur? If you concur..and solipsism is not true..then it must be some sort of shared dream. And if it is some sort of shared dream then there has to be some type of space somewhere for "everyone " to be able to share. This defeats the whole worldview because that would be an objective, external world. So if you think it through you must come to this conclusion about idealism. It must be identical to a night time dream.

Right

@Carl-Richardill say the same thing i said to him. If you agree its consciousness then it's either identical to a night time dream or its a shared dream. But it wouldn't be easier for God to just dream that it is a shared dream. You're already dreaming. Think about this logistically. If you can get to Florida by walking or by car which would you choose. You get their either way.

Talking at all is a model, no? If you are one then there are no others because other is incorporated into the one. What's wrong with that? I think What's wrong is it freaks you out.

Suffering is Awakening. Give me more of that shit. GIve me more suffering.

Whatever bro.

Aoght I'm out to the club boys. I'll report back.

Yeah but you're God. Youre Being. You ain't this cool dude with a thousand girls. That's an illusion. You are God dreaming this.

😀 what's the hangup with Solpsism. We can break it down one by one if you want. We don't need Awakening. But we do need you to realize it ain't atoms. I can't work with you at all if Jesus is coming for you and a tree falls without you around.

Lol. Imagine going your whole life and then God tapping you on the shoulder and saying you have been self deceived. Would you believe him or would that be deception too.

He can't not be awake but at the same time he cannot be awake because none of it happened naturally. A natural awakening is like none other. You will never top that.