Dumb Enlightened

indeed, I laughed a lot, because of his ignorance hahahahahaahahaah

Hey guys, I've been going through a situation and if someone can relate to or has gone to the same, I'd appreciate some advice. A couple of days ago I've started to experience a felling of total hopelessness, after a few awakenings that I had a couple of weeks before. Not knowing what to do I start to meditate and trying to let go of it, and this resulted in a greater enlightenment experience, a state of total peace and serenity. The next day, the identification with the ego was back, and then all its fears start to come to the surface, again I tried to meditate and to let go of it, another awakening happened making all the fears vanish, and a kept meditating resulting in an even deeper enlightenment, it was so intense it was kind of scary, And when this experiences happen, the problems or fears, or anything.. don't matter anymore, so I didn't even think about, the identification with the ego was gone completely.. But the problem is that it doesn't last, so today I woke up with the same dread and feeling of hopeless, so that contrast between the two "states" is so huge, that it makes the situation even worse...I'm tired of this, I don't know what it is happening nor what to do about.

Yeah man, I'm talking about the channel, not the person, the channel indeed sucks, zero content I dare you to watch 10 minutes of the video that was posted above

This guy's channel appeared on my youtube suggestions, I checked it out, and he just basically talk about other people, there's nothing useful on his channel whatsoever, is a joke

I said God but you can call whatever you want, being, awareness, the universe, whatever, and the second question, I don't know buddy, I just got this far, I don't have all the answers yet, all I can say is that life is happening, the present moment is unfolding,

I think you didn't get the point yet, watch a movie and you will see many individuals and different characters, each one with its personality, emotions, actions, etc... inside the movie they are real, but they don't exist independent of the movie, the movie is all of them, this person/body/mind that you now identify with, it exists, but it's not your body, or your life, this sense of ownership, that is false, it's God's body, God's life. Everything around you is real, the cars, the houses, the human beings, all real, in a sort of way, but this "you" who think is perceiving all of it, that is false. Look at the computer now, the computer is real, the human being looking at it is real, but there's no " I " no entity experiencing it,

If this is not for you right now, forget about it and go live your life, try self actualization in other ways, do things you enjoy. if it is your time to go to the non dual path, you won't be able to run from it, each individual has its on time, just take it easy buddy.

Where is the I then ? If you are identified with it you should know where it is,

Maybe you misunderstood what letting go really means, read the book Letting go by David Hawkins check out this thread

I would suggest you to use the Letting go process to get rid of all those feelings you must be feeling now, once you do it, and feel better, look for the sense of ' I ', where is it coming from ? Try to find it, look for it until it is gone or you can try to skip the letting go process and just go after the sense of I;

From what book is this print ?

No buddy, you need to make a massive mental gymnastics to not be happy, you need to create all sorts of concepts, stories, a giant net of belief systems, your mind is working 24/7 just to make sure that you are not happy. Imagine that all your mind concepts just vanish, could you be unhappy ? Despite whatever happens, could you suffer ? No, it's impossible to suffer, So my question is, if there's a way to go through this life without suffer, why not do it ?

I am felling/experiencing exactly the same that you described, I will look for books, I want to know what is this Kundalini about,

Thanks for the suggestion, I will read it for sure !!

Hey man, is your Kundalini awake ? if so, what does it feel like ?, I was researching about it and found just misinformation, I think it may be happening to me, but I'm not sure, do you have a recommendation of a book or video about it ? about teachers, I've been watching Rupert Spira a lot, and he explains evertyhing very well, I had a really hard time understanding all this things, until I find his book

You (mind) can't ever love everything, I'm not even sure what is it that the mind calls love. I just watched the last video from Leo, and I had really great realizations from it, a few hours later I was doing my stuff when I suddenly became aware of infinity love, even while the experience was happening I couldn't understand or conceptualize it, it's not even a feeling/emotion, it's something indescribable, it's far, far away from the human understanding, it's a love for everything, unconditional love, love for all of reality simultaneously, it's infinity love, so it has to contain and love everything, it's beyond judgments, beyond good/bad, right/wrong. For it to be infinity love it has to love/be everything, every possibility, every unfolding of event, imagine that a tree falls down and it kills a kid, from the human perspective it's impossible to love something like this, but infinity love doesn't see it that way, it loves the tree, the kid, the interaction between them, it's a love for itself, because it sees the reality of them. The overwhelming experience lasted for half an hour I think, the only thing I could do was crying and say, but how is it possible ?

I was watching this last Leo's video some hours ago, and I became conscious of what he was saying, for a few moments I experienced it, I've watched hundreds of 'enlightened teachers' videos, no video had this impact on my consciousness, not even close. But it is not for everybody, if the grip of the ego is too strong on you, you won't have the humility to watch the video with an open heart and mind, so you won't get anything from it. Quoting Leo " you don't understand !!!"

Will science ever prove objective reality ? Science is based in this assumption, so it would be cool if it was proven lol I really like Science, but it has limitations

Talking about realization through the self inquiry, I had two kinds of realizations, the first one happened after a couple of days of intense self inquiry, when suddenly the sense of I was replaced by a quiet mind, and a sense of emptiness. I couldn't describe a felling to it, was just empty. Another realization, this one I've been having lately, is the dissolution of the sense of " I " replaced by a stillness, calmness and peace, and the mind stopping to conceptualize, and even the perception changes a little, it's like there's something about every single object, they kind of different, it's hard to describe, it's like there's life there, not just an object. Both realizations had no identification with form, like there's wasn't an identification with being a person, so the thought my body, my mind wasn't there, the difference is one realization being this emptiness, and the other is sort of the opposite, it's like fullness. What do you guys think about this 2 different realizations ?

Really great video, right what I needed, all videos you guys shared dealt with issues that I was facing, I really appreciated it,

It's like the mind tries everything to hold or attention again, using every means necessary, because once you saw the illusion it start to lose its power, I was trying to "hold on" to that awakening, and after contemplating a little, I saw that it became a new attachment, the ego became attached to the enlightenment in a way to perpetuate itself, I saw a very interesting video , this one right here; He said that one should ask oneself, ' how did I unenlightened myself ' Because the enlightened state is our nature, it's not something that can be lost, because it's right here, so how does it seem that I lost it ? , that was the question I got it then, at least what was happening to me. Sure it must be levels and depths of awakening, but I would reach a state that I can call no self, that the sense of being a personal self vanishes, and all I could describe was that life is, life is unfolding, had a felling of deep peace and satisfaction to it. But a few hours later maybe, a thought would appear saying something like " this is not the end, there's must be more to it " then I would buy into that thought, and create a new search, and then the identification with the seeker was back. This trick at least, doesn't work anymore, if indeed there's more to see, I think eventually it will present itself, if it doesn't, there's nothing to be done

@Truth Addict That's exactly what I thought, because I'm sure I have been repressing all kinds of feelings for a really long time. Yesterday I was focusing on relax and let all the emotions come up without trying to get way from them, Lots of things came to the surface, and I know there's more yet to come @SriBhagwanYogi thanks for sharing the video, all watch it !! I really like Spira, he was the first teacher that I watched and actually understood what he was talking about @Javad The problem is I think, that before going to non duality and spirituality, I tried the main stream self-help to grow my self identity, and most of this traditional self-help doesn't deal with the core issues, they make you forget about your feelings and emotions and give techniques to change yourself, like trying control the thoughts, pretending to be who you want to be, and all sorts of non sense. I've been doing this for some years, and it has probably repressed a lot of feelings, and eventually they had to come, probably the awakening was a trigger to them @WelcometoReality This thread perfectly described what is going on, very helpful , thanks !!! @Gabriel Antonio I am always open to the possibility,I am always trying to look for more options, but I can see much difference between this and depression, I had depression when I was a teen, and I got treatment, I remember the accompanying feelings were, a really strong hate towards myself, and others, a deep sense of sadness, anger, feeling like a victim from the world and life, and of course, thinking that suicide was a way out. Right now this feeling that I was facing doesn't have any of it, it's more like how would you feel if you found out that you actually don't have any control, when all the mind is built upon the assumption that it has control, and all that people search all their lives is to control, because people don't want happiness or freedom, they want control, the mind wants to control, but it can't but anyway, I will book an appointment with a psychiatrist, I wanted to do it for a while now, and I think now is a good time thanks for the reply !! @Nadosa That's true, most people who are suffering don't like to think about this possibility, and going to doctors for me was always the last option, depression is the disease that most affect people in the world (or so the medicine says), I know a bunch of people that the doctors diagnosed having depression and now are having to take pills everyday, just to numb them, I know people who have been taking medicine for depression for more than twenty years, people who have gone to lots of doctors and haven't gotten better, so most of the causes of depression are surely not physical,

@purerogue I was thinking about that, how did it happen, It happened by letting go of personal will, I didn't do self inquiry much, because while doing the letting go, feeling the feelings that I was experiencing and allowing them to be there, they vanished and with them the self identification, so there was no point in self inquiry anymore, but now , when I lose the hold of it, I will self inquiry about it, who is losing, who is suffering @mandyjw That's true, the problem is that the difference between the two states is so massive that the normal self identification is becoming unbearable; and it's not that the higher consciousness stay only when I meditate, it sometimes comes out of nowhere during the day, and it stays during other activities, like walking to work, for example. I'll read Tolle's book again, I've read it before, I think it was the second book I read about the subject, but it's been a while @pointessa That's exactly what I was thinking, In higher states of consciousness one doesn't even think about the possibility of falling asleep again, it seems absurd and impossible, it's like the identification with the self/ego has never even existed, but then the illusion comes back, @Anna1 I'm not being able to do that, it's like the mind is coming full force, all the pain, suffer, fears from the ego are coming to the surface, almost at the same time, so the realization from before seems blocked by all of it, @FoxFoxFox 'm trying to do that, actually it is happening by its on I guess, I'm not a great meditator I guess, my meditations don't last more than a couple of hours, these states are kinda coming and going by their on, as I was having lunch today, I felt a deep peace and stillness, coming out of nowhere, but then later it fades and then the mind kicks in, and this alternation sucks, it is happening lots of times through the day

Leo talks about the facets of the absolute, you can experience one facet of it, for example the no self, but you don't necessary experience at the same time the love facet. You can experience the no self , you are not attached to the body, but you don't necessary have the realization that you are eternal and immortal. Dr. David Hawkins has the map of consciousness that calibrate the levels of consciousness a human body can experience, I think it is very interesting. What happened to me was, I was not identified with the body/mind anymore, There was a deep sense of peace and serenity, all worries, problems, were gone, it is a state of total satisfaction. Suddenly it's almost like a lightning hitting me, out of nowhere, and everything start to get really still, the world like gets in slow motion I guess, until is like everything stops, there's no time anymore, there's a feeling that is so massively strong that is even scary, the body freaks out, and I can't comprehend what the hell was going on