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ground replied to John West's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
In Zen they do retreats where they sit even longer. Still also with Zennists there may be inappropriate intentions or attitudes involved. Anyway long sitting may be a nice pastime provided that it is not forced. -
ground replied to John West's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Therefore it reads 'if the intention or attitude is inappropriate.' -
ground replied to John West's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
2,5h is too long. Even 5 minutes can be too long if the intention or attitude is inappropriate. -
ground replied to Fairy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It is as it is. Suchness. -
ground replied to Jamie Universe's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Actually when you sneeze there is a short moment when awareness shines through. If moving is disturbing then the state you are in is artificial. Doing meditation is artificial. Nevertheless the 'I' seems to need that artificiality in the beginning to experience calm and no thought etc. Later when awareness has been registered it is more important to integrate awareness and movement. It is impossible to do do-nothing right as it is impossible to do do-nothing wrong. If there is the sentiment of watching or paying attention during do-nothing then there is doing. So the difficulty of do-nothing is this super-relaxation which is totally alien. This super-relaxation eventually will let awareness shine through as a flash of knowing without there being anybody that knows. But do no wait for it or watch or pay attention whether the flash arises because that would undermine the super-relaxation. Once awareness has been registered one may be mindful of being integrated with it or having slipped out of it to re-integrate with it. Before awareness has been registered mindfulness is important to avoid getting carried way by thought or emotions. So mindfulness is always important and should ideally be permanent. This has been my explanation. If you are following Leo's teaching then you should only follow his explanations and instructions. -
ground replied to Fairy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Because conscious beings naturally express themselves and seek affirmation. -
ground replied to Roman25's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Belief is imputation of truth. Therefore what you called belief isn't belief on my side. However you can believe that it is and I can't do anything to make you drop that belief. If merely uttering words or writing words were the expression of belief then intentionally telling a lie would be impossible. If one holds beliefs then upon liberation all beliefs have vanished. Inspect my words, there isn't any truth in them. All of my words originate depending on conditions. The point is if one cannot identify the mental factor in one's mind stream that causes or (better) is belief one will never understand what I am talking about. If on the other side one can identify this factor in one's mind stream one has necessarily directly perceived emptiness. -
ground replied to SoonHei's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Do not pay attention to the idiots of enlightenment. -
ground replied to Roman25's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Going by words, yes. But if you do not hold any belief you can realize liberation. -
ground replied to Roman25's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
1. Belief is imputation of truth. 2. No imputation, no truth. 3. How can one gain certainty if nothing is true from its own side? And ... certainty about what? Answer: Nothing can be said about that. Any communication about that is intimately restricted to the sphere of teacher/guru and student. Can a student know? No, a student can rely. Once a student knows he is a master and has left the sphere of a student. What can be learned from that? If you are a student for a long time then something has gone wrong. The fault is either on your side or on the side of the teacher. -
ground replied to Roman25's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Belief always is imputation of truth. No truth can be found on the side of the object. 'truth' is an innate mental habit and it's delusion. Liberation is holding no beliefs. -
ground replied to Antonius's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There is no vibe involved in my words. Please inspect my words and devide them up into their characters. you surely won't find any vibes. -
ground replied to AlwaysBeNice's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
yes it is. you are simply understanding 'instant (gut or heart) pain reaction' to be independent of mental labeling. but it isn't. -
ground replied to Antonius's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There is no direct experience. What is expressed here in words is always only conceptual. Appropriate response to conceptual expression is conceptual expression. -
ground replied to Antonius's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
To jump straight to the end is the direct path and it's definitely not the case that one fall's on one's back and doesn't get up for months. I am quite familiar with views that differentiate between ultimate and conventional/relative and that focus on conventional/relative as far as practice is concerned. This is nothing other than fooling oneself into believing that fetters colored with hope are better than fetters that are black and lack hope. Fetters are fetters and hope and fear are baseless. -
ground replied to Antonius's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
To me it appears as if what for you is 'critique' and 'marinate in it' for me is the same. 'critique of sth' is 'deep investigation into sth' is "marinate in sth". Rational analysis is the key ... of course that may sound provocative for convinced anti-rationalists -
ground replied to Antonius's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Hmh... it's always problematic to say 'Ultimately it is such and such but for the time being I am practicing something different' In that way there will alway remain a kind of 'gap' or a 'felt' duality. Either form and emptiness are inseparable and then it is of no use to try to focus on emptiness exclusively because whatever one focuses on then isn't that emptiness that is form and inseparable from form OR form and emptiness are different. -
ground replied to Antonius's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That's an interesting statement. In Prajna Paramita Hridaya sutra which does not belong to Advaita it reads 'Form is emptiness; emptiness is form.' Do you or does Advaita consider emptiness to be different from form? -
ground replied to Antonius's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
If you found Nothingness then Nothingness actually is Somethingness. Otherwise you couldn't have found it. -
ground replied to Ampresus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Why do you think those thoughts about thoughts then? Obviously what you discovered has no value. Why? Because it is just a thought. -
ground replied to dvdas's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Concentrative meditation has no lasting effects. It's only kind of holidays for the mind. Having said that holidays of course are great and necessary, recreation. Thus concentrative meditation may function as a basis for 'more'. -
ground replied to SQAAD's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That's an important differentiation. So called 'enlightment experiences' have nothing to do with enlightenment. So called 'enlightment experiences' are nothing but transient psycho-mental phenomena. 1. enlightenment is neither a non dual state nor a dual state 2. enlightenment is a peak attainment. There is no falling back. 3. enlightenment is a cessation. 'permanent' does not apply since every cessation has a beginning. What is permanent has neither beginning nor end. -
ground replied to ivankiss's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Especially if one gets involved with this forum -
ground replied to Roman25's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That is a minunderstanding Deception is revealed through analysis which contradicts it. Thus the deception is non-implicatively negated. One does not have to believe in 'truth' which cannot be found anyway. -
ground replied to GabeN's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Be mindful all the time. Question is 'mindful of what?' and that is of being in the sphere of appropriate view or vision or contemplation.