Extreme Z7

This strikes eerily to me of the mentality that America had in reaction to the 9/11 attacks.

That's just an ego backlash. I don't think anyone should be consciously doing stupid stuff to try to grow themselves, though. That's just accelerationist thought. Like voting for Trump because you think it will teach the DNC a lesson.

I think you should at least try to help but set a threshold for yourself for how much negativity you can tolerate. Sometimes spending the energy might be worth it for them and your relationship, sometimes they could just be too lost to help. I guess you should always just trust your intuition and judgement with this one.

Speaking as a fan of so called leftist "Breadtube", you could say I'm a bit more edgy with my leftist rhetoric. So I have no problem reading that and just outright labeling you a racist and a white supremacist. I know this forum encourages more productive, deep, and detailed discussion but HEY. . . . ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ sometimes you just gotta say what you want in the most direct fashion. No beating around the bush. No pretense of trying to have a civil discussion. Kinda like how your favorite Trumpy boy acts, wouldn't you agree?

In what way? I'd like to hear your thoughts on that.

I feel like you didn't even read what I said. Why do I even bother?

Okay, I apologize. I read that wrong. If you're asking where the limit is for progressiveness, I would say that it depends on the context. Always think critically and openly about any topic instead of just holding on to any particular point in the progressiveness scale.

You're making assumptions about what I believe in. But be careful stereo-typing immigrants. Most of them are not religious fundamentalists in the foaming-at-the-mouth sense. And don't forget that America, or let's say "The West", still has a ton of fundamentalist religious types.

You're weird, even for a conservative. You're using past progressive achievements as justification to prevent further progressive movements. Weird, man.

Dude, I literally come from a culture that was historically enslaved by White Europeans. I wasn't taught that white people were bad, just that we Filipinos were historically enslaved by White Christians at one point and we fought for our freedom. At no point in history, did the Philippines do its own version of slavery. Oppression almost always tends to be a one-sided act of cruelty.

@Leo Gura That's given you can understand a word Donald Duck says lol. Better to imagine him with a different voice.

@Dutch guy You have such stubborn certainty with your worldview. Reality will punish you for it somewhere down the line. You have yet to experience the shock of knowing just how little you actually know.

@Dutch guy My dude, you literally just doubled-down on everything I said. Classic example of confirmation bias. There are way more studies that tell you that HCQ does not reduce the risk of death among coronavirus patients. The only one trying to deceive you is yourself.

This is why I can't side with Trumpists like you in a nutshell. Conspiracy theorizing against the media, Spreading dangerous misinformation, Basic Misunderstanding of Medicine. Trump spreads an at-the-time unproven drug as a miracle cure for Covid-19 which could potentially have harmful side-effects, and you can't help but whine about people calling out Trump's dangerous incompetence. Currently, the drug has already been proven to be utterly useless against the virus. To suggest otherwise, you would have to delve into conspiracies of partisan motivation of suppressing a supposed truth Trump tried to spread just to make him look bad. And at least spell 'Hydroxychloroquine' properly, copy-paste exists you know.

I'm still confused about this. If God is infinite, how can you tell if you're reaching true finality? The whole concept of a final line seems absurd to me.

Exact wording does not matter. It was implied.

Says the person who called me a 'hypocrite' lol. Oh the hypocrisy indeed. . . You call me a hypocrite, and I try to respond by debunking it. I call you stupid, and suddenly it's a personal attack. What a snowflake.

No, you're just an idiot. I am the Topic Starter of this thread but I literally haven't made any posts on it criticizing Libertarianism besides the starting post. I literally started this thread two weeks ago and the only reason it's still active is because other people, including yourself, keep making new posts on it when I've already long forgotten about it. I was just giving you advice on how to think about Learning. Notice how you distract from it by accusing me of some imagined hypocrisy. Why are you even on this forum if you have no interest in Learning and gaining a deeper understanding of Reality.

There are 2 main types of criticism: Criticism from above, Criticism from below. Basically, judging from a higher understanding vs lack of understanding respectively. Long before starting this thread, I've had an interest in learning about Libertarianism and have exposed myself to many different examples of it. Of course, I could still learn a lot more which is why I also try to moderate how much I criticize it. I'm not 100% ideologically-opposed to Libertarian ideas.

Stop this obsession with criticizing people. You do not understand Democratic Socialism, let alone pure Stage Green Socialism. Focus on having a deep interest in learning about Socialism and contemplate how it fits to the puzzle that is reality. You have a danger of getting lost into ideological group-think.

You've already lost me.

You know what's ironic too? No Bullshit unwittingly used a flattering photo of Bernie Sanders in his video thumbnail. He's REEEEAAAAAALLLYYY gotten lazy with his YouTube content. He can't even do conservatism effectively. Wow indeed.

Yes, possibly dare I say. . . Globalist even. No Bullshit seems to have gotten even lazier with editing lol. And he still spends even less time with thought and research. Probably not a good sign if your video content is on par with that of LeafyIsHere.

@giglio No Bullshit's channel is Stage Blue/Orange cringe. He couldn't understand socialism even if his life depended on it. He says "Socialism" then proceeds to complain about SJWs. Maybe check out Leo's video "Learning = Making Distinctions".

The Education System is still in a point in its development where they value efficiency more than deep learning. It's a factory creating duplicates instead of a harnessing of each individual's strengths. College is a little different but it has its own issues as well.