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In a one on one self-help session, would you consider lies or half truths if you knew that the full truth would turn them off the path of enlightenment forever. Does the truth come over all, or does reducing the suffering of other people come above honesty?

That's so beautiful, I've been reading through this, thanks for that insight

Because humor is meaningless and fun, just like life

I agree, it's actually how I usually relate with people at different levels of the spiral. If you can get someone to laugh, you can probably get them to listen. That being said I think there is slightly more insight to be had here other than just pleasure seeking and getting people to like and trust you, I'll meditate on it in the morning as I think it's also an expression of love. Of not wanting the other person to feel stressed in your presence, and I think some of that positive emotion is actually a release of some social anxiety. That being said, so many people use humor, not just who we might traditionally consider nice. I certainly use it to make light of serious issues, and to bring up serious topics in less debby downer way. Hmmmm, yeah back to sleep

Do you happen to have a more indepth analysis of why humor let's go of the ego? And while I agree it feels good, other activities like meditation which let go of the ego can be uncomfortable depending at what level you are at. Im not sure how to put those pieces together. Any insight would be much appreciated

What's the biggest thing keeping you back from helping even more people? Be it financial, lack of expertise in some field, human needs, etc Is there reincarnation/past lives?

That sounds awesome, if you need advice on the future in terms of spiritual work on acid, me and a lot of other people on this forums have experience and would love to lend a hand. On top of that, Leo specifically did a video on how to use psychedelics in a way that is based off of spiritual growth rather than just having fun, which I also recommend, music with eyes closed is so beautiful if you give yourself to the experience. Also we all use language like that, I totally get it, I just wanted to make sure, sounds like you'll be kicking ass

I actually have some more questions now 1. What are the benefits from further developing through the various degrees of enlightenment to society as a whole? 2. If it were an option, would you do this journey again by being reborn? Or would you never go back into the life that we live even after an eternity of bliss? 3. Does it make it difficult to teach people who suffer how not to suffer, when you aren't suffering? Is there an advantage to teaching that comes from being in the same position and delusion as others? 4. Is there a path that can benefit humanity and raise the consciousness of society as a whole more than enlightenment?

I don't want to overuse spiral dynamics too much because I feel like it already is over applied. However, my thoughts are just where does this road lead for you. Some of the language used like "work in an office with a bunch of apes?" makes me think that there is a fairly strong negative attitude towards these people. This road leads to love, and not just love of love, but love of mankind. I understand the darkside of orange, but there is also a lot of beauty to capitalism. It brought wealth and technology, which in turn gave us the money and time of day to be on these forum discussing these "orange apes". I really believe moving forward will entail being able to love these apes, and truly seek to raise their level of consciousness. Remember, while they may come off as apes, a lot of them lived loveless childhoods and only ever learned about achievement from their parents. Some kids don't get affection, and some kids grow up in other parts of the world that don't have the niceties we have to develop as far as we have. You've been blessed with a gift, you are on a forums with multiple enlightened people, and access to any knowledge from the internet you could possibly need. I think me and you should use that blessing to help instead of complain that we have to deal with others who weren't as blessed as us. I would totally recommend taking psychedelics, doesn't hurt to work into them slowly, really depends on how confident you feel and your mental state, although maybe you've done them? Anyways, much love and I wish you the best in figuring this out

Your wisdom is much appreciated and will certainly be put to good use, hope you stick around on these forums at least a bit

I think if you do Zen you can get full on ninjutsu but you'd probably be hunted by the Akatsuki

That's kind of what I figured, although I had heard of attempts from people like Tom Campbell to use consciousness and virtual reality to do so. Or at least say that these laws and strange behaviors point away from materialism and into something bigger, I wasn't sure your take on it. One last question if you wouldn't mind answering something more personal. If there was one defining moment or day in your life that contributed the most to you eventually becoming enlightened, what was it, and what lesson could I Iearn from it as someone seeking full enlightenment?

This is awesome that you're doing this. Anyways, I had seen one of your comments about the probabilistic nature of quantum mechanics, and I'm not here to grill you on that. However, I'm curious how much you've looked into the "sciences". In terms of the physical laws of the universe, gravity, quantum mechanics, even the initial state of the universe I.E. big bang. My question is do you see any use in studying these laws in understanding the universe and it's creation, or do you think that studying these laws outside of benefiting humans and technology is a waste. For example, quantum mechanics is an interesting field because we really don't know what the fuck is going on. We did the measurements, and then created the model that matched the measurements we got, and it worked in terms of predictability. However, we have very little insight into why the hell the quantum world acts so strange when compared to the Newtonian world we live in. Do you think there are insights to be had her in understanding why the quantum world and other laws of nature are the way they are, or do you think that the only way to get at the absolute Truth is through experience?

Arriving Dec 4 - Dec 7, you got me with all your heart. I've been looking for a few good books anyways

I started with Moojiji because I'd heard of him but not much of his content. He's a nut. Finishes some super deep idea, closes his eyes for 10 seconds, opens them "not one more word is needed", continues to stare at the crowd for 30 more seconds. I'll be at least going down his list of 81 highlight videos, and do the same for the others, thanks for your recommendations. Leo if you're reading this, it's almost tragic, because Shinzen Young has such good information. I mean obviously you know this, but it's very digestible for me, I just wish he took good notes like you and focused on the nuances instead of random details. That being said, he's a blessing nonetheless, and I owe him a lot of my progress

I've been trying some teachers in Turqoise now for a bit. I really love Shinzen Young and resonate with what he has to say, but I find he spends 75% of the time talking about details that I don't care about. Really specific kanji symbols, reading the lessons first in Japanese first at times, just a lot of filler. I've read a lot of what you've posted on here, and aside from Complexity Labs which I will be looking for, if you can point me in the right directions of a turqoise, high information density teacher who teaches similar lessons in Zen Buddhism and emotional mastery, especially more heavily rooted in science, I'd appreciate any recommendations. Otherwise no worries, I'll just keep going down the list of people in the Turqoise mega thread

I agree with everything you've said, just want to add that you don't have to trip balls each time. I found a quarter tab easily gets my ol' brain tingling and just rattling off insights. It's certainly a much milder experience, but then it just peaks for a few hours lightly and you can do a three hour meditation during the peak, and then the rest of the day is pretty normal or a light light high. You won't feel mentally drained the next day either

Alright, we'll get some moldavite haha, when it's in stock D:::: Your day sounds awesome btw

This was the best category I could find to put this under, it's just kind of forums logistics. It's fairly important to me to show gratitude, especially to those that have helped me. Not only because I enjoy mutual relationships, but I want to make it clear that I've read and appreciated your advice. However, what this has entailed for me and a lot of other people on many threads is @'ing them, or quoting their comment and thanking them. The only problem is that this tends to bring up dead posts that aren't actively being discussed, just for other people to open up the thread and see someone thanking another person. I love that people are showing gratitude, but maybe if you added three emojis like a thumbs up, a heart, and if you really love me, praying hand (idk why I love that emoji in particular). This would add a nice cosmetic touch, as well as allow us to show gratitude to people that give us life changing advice, without burying the threads where active discussion is taking place. I'm pretty sure you can selectively add emojis, such that we don't become toxic and gang up on each other with thumbs down and angry faces, I just want a way for us to show gratitude without burying other people's discussions. Actually, I'll add some life advice, then we are in the right area for part of the threads. I've noticed over the last few weeks of setting my alarm at 7:30 that if I get up within an hour of my alarm, that it's best to just trust my body that it got enough sleep, and get into the shower. Me and my roommate both confirm that getting too much sleep can kind of paradoxically make you more tired throughout the day, so if you get up and you feel up, I'd recommend hopping in the shower and starting your daily routine

Hi! I'm very STEM oriented and I don't think there are too many of us on this forums, I think we have an opportunity to share our perspectives and both learn something. So I was interested in looking into the crystal hype, and found very little information except for one study done on quartz and glass shaped into quartz crystals. From what I can tell, there was no statistical significance indicating that quartz had any healing benefit, yet out of the 50% who were given quartz and 50% given glass, both sides indicated feeling heat, vibrations, and other strange effects when primed to do so. This was a double blind study, which is some of the best science we can do. I'm not saying crystals don't have real healing benefits, and I would never advocate someone who is benefiting from crystals to stop. However, I think it's important to understand that different things resonate with different people. I can feel the vibrations in my head when those juicy insights are coming, I feel love in my heart towards others. I can see why people believe in chakras and what they are experiencing, and I'm not here to say there isn't any truth to them. However, I would like to advocate for people who don't resonate with this. It's not that we don't love or didn't learn the properties of crystals. I actually graduated with a degree in physics and would love to talk to you about how crystals work, how they are designed, why they are used, I love to teach. While it may be true, I don't feel like I was uneducated to "simple physics", and when I had heard about this I went right to Amazon to buy some moldivite which was out of stock D: Some people just resonate with different things. Personally I'm an optimizer, and i'm that way because I love it. Yesterday Leo recommended the quickest way to enlightenment as staring at your hands and asking questions like "what is existence" and "who am I", so I spent three hours doing this. During this I tried different distances to see if it was easier or harder to merge with my hand, and get that kind of deep experience that comes from a micro-dose of acid, I tried different thoughts and meditation techniques, I just had a good time experimenting. That's what I enjoy doing, to me if I can find a technique that is 5% better, I could save months of suffering for myself and others, and I'm not so much neurotic about that as I am happy to explore techniques. Anyways, we all have our ways of spiritual growth, and I really feel like I live a beautiful life that gets better day after day, and has a lot of love in it, so I hope you can stay as open-minded to my perspective as I'd like to be with yours. I still might get that moldavite though

I absolutely agree, I think there is a certain intuition that arises when you are ready for another experience

this is gold

Tragic haha, maybe one day we can handle thumbs up haha. I definitely figured there was something behind this, and had assumed it was the negative emojis more than people bragging about positive emojis. Shows what I know...

Because of quantum mechanics the world runs on probability, I'm not going to get too deep into the free will debate, but there is no script. The script is a bunch of probabilities of different realities if that makes you feel any better. It's a mystery what you're going to get

Thank you for giving me one more thing to watch out for <3 Do you think there is any necessity to having the ideology to get that far, and then it's something that should be stripped away? Or, do you feel like one can stay away from ideology at all levels of development?