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Isn't the world being a mess just relative? Mess compared to what? How society could be? We may always be a mess compared to future societies and advanced compared to those in the past, I feel like trying to objectively label now as a mess is a pointless, one day turquoise individuals may be what's holding society back

For weight loss there is all kinds of research about carbs being a hindrance to weight loss. Keto diets have a lot of science behind them, I'm not going to link you because its impossible to avoid on google if you look up low carb weight loss. Also potatoes dont offer much in terms of nutrition so far as healthy fats and vitamins go, kind of just calorie bombs, which is cool if you're starving and need to put on weight, not if you're trying to loss weight

How do we even classify stage turquoise music? Is this by lyrics, or stage of the artists, or some other factors like how the song is composed/feels? I often find music that throws like low-key enlightenment references, and some use like Alan Watts voice or some shit. Such as, but it's really just like a quote or two, so yeah I don't even know how we classify music into stages

A trap that I've recently been catching myself in is kind of being half-cocked ready to reject thoughts that are too harsh/lazy/egoic etc. Giving a bit too much power to my thoughts still, they aren't going to drag me back down to hell, just thoughts

Same! Screw Leo we can't help but be idiots this thread has offered so much to me in such a clear way

Did you find affirmations or any other techniques useful in terms of programming your mind to be searching for that sense of I throughout the day?

I feel like "your own diet" means that you just kinda take it as it goes and generally try to be healthy and stick to a few kinds of food? I'm not sure, but I think people who are the most serious about losing weight keep track of calories. I think you should be too, you might be surprised at how many you're getting. On top of that, not all calories are equal in a sense. Protein takes more internal energy to break down and utilize, so like 30% or some number around there of the calories from protein you eat has to go into breaking it down, while its like a few percent for fats and carbs, but you can look all those numbers up if you care. The point is, the most effective weight loss strategies that I have done myself include high protein, it keeps you nice and full and I lost a surprising amount of weight just replacing one of my meals with a protein shake out of skim milk

Okay, I just didn't want you to kill me, I'm just fucking myself right now single lifeing it up so I'm not going to get in your way

Well if you were gay they could suck your dick, but my best friend is a guy and a lot of people I value are men, I wouldn't want them dead so I could fuck their wives haha. Maybe we can just kill the men with good looking dates, make a compromise. We can be sadistic repressed aliens together

You need to send her a comprehensive list of Disney movies you've seen so she can make the right analogies to explain, but uh oh, my deepest desire is that every man in my life died sounds harsh. I think what you're getting at is that we kinda wish we had everyone woman to ourselves sexually, at least I had that desire as a kid, and I'm not going to pretend like that would be a bad thing now if it were consensual, but I don't want anyone to die for that to happen haha

Wow thank you for that, I usually fangirl your responses but the Harry Potter reference really sold me. I'll be expecting you to explain everything to me in terms of Harry Potter whenever possible. But seriously thanks for the thoughtful response, I wouldn't ask you for one if I didnt value it

I feel slightly unresolved on the exact mechanism, although I'm kind of leaning towards thinking it's probably just this huge fucking mess of reasons ranging from loneliness, life purpose, types of choices made inside/outside of relationships and probably many more individual factors that range from person to person in their contribution to life expectancy. There is probably room for follow up studies to root the actual mechanisms behind this out. That's a really interesting point about the necessity of cooking and cleaning vs. financial stuff that is really in your face important, but it's still an idea to me to be tested even though it sounds good in my head. I think there is definitely the notion that women need men more than men need women at least when it comes to relationships, and I'm interested personally to know how true that is, although it definitely doesn't seem to have much truth to it. I also think this is kind of a hard study to unpack for a guy, what can we take away from this study. Even if it's true in general that married men live longer/happier lives, doesn't mean an unmarried man should force himself into a marriage to try and reap these benefits. Maybe there's a separate desire and kind of life that people want to live that involves wanting to get married, among other things that increase life expectancy. I don't even feel like this is nit picky as I can be, I think it's important to be able to pull something away from a study, otherwise it's just another set of words I have remembered, and I'm kind of curious if you consider this knowledge for knowledge's sake, or how you processed this study in terms of what does this mean to you and/or how you live your life.

Yeah just sounds like you don't really have a clear enough vision for yourself or what you're passionate about that, but you won't have to hit rock bottom to find that passion I don't think. It's nothing to stress over, just stay in tune with yourself and your passions will become more and more clear

Yeah don't worry, I think you're on the right path but that's up to you to decide what you want and whether you are going in the right direction. I'll talk about one of your points because I'm pretty heavy into science. "Does that also mean that Spirituality goes against Science and Empiricism?" NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, it does not. It would be more accurate to say spirituality transcends science and empiricism. I think it's common to ignore the very practical benefits of science in curing diseases, modeling solutions, increasing life expectancy and health, finding out what things apply to humans in general, what is placebo and isn't the list goes on. These things are all great, nothing wrong about science and empiricism unless you try to use them for everything. The problem is that people try to overuse science and run into a wall when they try to write the science of subjective experience and reality. Can you imagine how hard it would be to use science to verify the fabric of reality, it's not something you write down, it's something more than that, science won't help you discover what you are, and even if it could, would you be satisfied with some infinitely intelligent computer printing out a statement that says "you are one/god/everything/consciousness" or whatever answer it prints out? I wouldn't, I'd rather experience that, but people who are too into using science and cling to it as a tool of understanding reality will spend all day writing equations to an answer that is all around them. On the other hand, there is a lot of ignorance on the other end of the spectrum in terms of believing science has absolutely no value to it. Science is a tool, use it when it helps you understand yourself and reality better, to reduce your suffering and the suffering of others, drop it when it's a limitation to your exploration of your own inner reality, it's a tool.

I'm hesitant to come to these same conclusions although it seems tempting, maybe these unmarried men tended to die younger because they had more stress or some other lifestyle choices. I think this is a kind of correlation vs. causation issue because it's highly possible (in my mind) that there is a third unknown factor that is causing both men to die younger and to be unmarried. I think there is an important distinction because it might push unhappy men to think that they might need to get married or have meaningful relationships to be fulfilled, when in fact it's actually a seperate related factor.

Optimization, taking what someone did or I did myself and doing it better

I noticed today that I got my best results from posing questions "What am I?" "Who is aware?" Followed by as deep of surrender as I can, every once in a while i can feel myself dissolve into bliss a bit stronger than before, so I'm pretty excited and really vouche for this

When you're wrong and your mind knows your wrong so it kind of scrims over the other persons arguement and never really reads the meaning of what they are saying, just the words, and then looks for a response. This ones tricky because it gets mixed in with stuff that is actually nonsense, so it's kind of hard to separate nonsense from difficult truths to accept. I'd say that's the most difficult to actively be aware of throughout the day. The hardest to realize in the first place is psychosomatic stuff for me. I found that I my body kind of pretends like it has to go to the bathroom more when I sit down and start being productive or meditating, and there are other forms of this that took a while to realize what was going on

Yeah so I meant separation in terms of I am not the content of my thoughts, however you're definitely right in terms of saying that the actual experience of the thought is very real to me, audio is one form conciousness can take

Well I do and dont struggle with anger. I'm personally not a very angry person and dont get the emotion much at all which gives the illusion that I'm good at handling my anger, but I really just dont get it often, so when I do I'm kind of like holy shit what should I be doing with this emotion. What I've been doing is just really listening to my anger as you should with all your emotions. On a day I notice I'm angry, I spend 15 minute meditation sessions until it's gone just kind of focused on clearing my emotional slate, feeling what I gotta feel and taking whatever message I feel like that feeling is trying to Express. But yeah most of my anger is to silly stuff and pawning off my own embarrassment, and I want to get rid of my anger, but me having it now is not seen as a problem so to say, more a reality, and just being aware of my anger and whatever silly thing made me angry tends to fix things over time, so its not a struggle so to say

They tend to shut up when you put them under more scrutiny with your awareness, but they still pop up. The relationship changes a bit, but I feel pretty concious of them and my separation from them

I think anger belongs here for a lot of people, myself included. It can be a defense mechanism against say sadness and embarrassment. If you've ever played a team game it's very common for the second worst player to kind of lash out at the worst player in larger team games, and I've found it's not that you actually care they are playing poorly, but are embarrassed about your own performance and want to pawn that burden off to someone else.

You don't have to hit rock bottom to start working towards your dreams, I see the primary problem as you thinking you have to hit rock bottom. It seems more like a condition that will never be met, like a really terrible trap, like you ego just completely indulging itself and lying to you and making you believe that once it has been completely indulged well then you'll be cured and want to accomplish your dreams. If you don't have motivation to accomplish whatever dreams you have, maybe you need to sit down and go through your feelings about your dreams and future and exactly what you will have to put in, and whether or not you are willing to do that. If your dreams are large enough, well you'll probably hit rock bottom pretty soon, so don't worry about that. Find out what you want, how much of it you are willing to take on now, and just start.

I do I do, I like you

I disagree, and that's not to imply lack of determinism means there is free will. But determinism seems to just inherently be disproven via the probabilistic nature of things like quantum mechanics. From a more non-dual side and less science oriented approach, could one not consider determinism vs non determinism a categorization, a big no no in terms of the Truth being beyond words and categories