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I got my own version of that zen proverb and it's much spicier

I took just a quarter tab and went to work just to kind of see, I felt too tweeky even off just that. It certainly works, and you can rattle off insights or just work on letting go and working through emotions, whatever you feel like you need. I would highly recommend trying it though, acid is such a life safer, im excited for society opening up to it

@Aquarius hope you're feeling better now! We all fall apart a bit

Oh yummy, dont resist those either, you dont want to become shrooms....maybe

@lostmedstudent I was just reading an adyashanti quote "what you resist you become" when your notification came up, which doesnt mean anything to me intellectually but I like random synchronicities

Hi hi, I think a lot of practices really point to very similar things, which if you believe everything is love would kind of make sense. So self inquiry often involves questions like "what is existence" "who am i" and of course you arent looking for an intellectual answer, but you do kind of search with your awareness. Like where the fuck am I. This causes me to kind of run into distortions and negative emotions on the edge of my emotional body, which I can address by being concious. If you just meditate and do nothing, emotions that you've kind of tucked away and are repressing will naturally bubble up but it seems like self inquiry is a better primer for enlightenment work. Breadth exercises seem to increase love/conciousness inside of the emotional body and causes it to get pushed against these distortions/illusions, at which point you can let go, and they dissolve for me after a fun bit of pain. Concentration practices kind of seem to make you more broadly aware of what you are feeling, but you still have to let go of the emotions and let them play themselves out. It makes it easier to have good concentration, but I suppose it shouldn't at all be necessary. Contemplation seems to push the logical end and those thoughts may have an emotional reaction that needs to be worked through, but sometimes contemplation just kind of gives you a ridiculous thought you have, and you can justblogically see that it's really dumb. That awareness can kind of be reclaimed intellectually. Really all practices seem to attack things we are repressing on the logical or emotional end, which would make sense because if we are love and we are suffering, we probably got some issues we gotta resolve

As to what's actually positive about meaninglessness, I think you're starting off with an assumption that lack of meaning means meaninglessness. Meaning to me just doesnt exist, it's just a word that means something along the lines of some objective life purpose that saves some greater role? But I cant hold meaning in my hand, I dont feel like I can be aware of meaning. I prefer this over having a meaning because i can still derive any meaning I want and live the way I want, but I dont feel weighed down by any objective meaning to my existence. If I want some tea I'll drink some tea, and I'm free from being concerned about whether this tea contributes to my meaning,whatever that means. I feel like its hard to just BE if you are too worried about making every moment mean more than it does

Sorry I haven't seen much information on the forums on controlling thought, I'll keep an eye out though

How does one control their thoughts and emotions and who is the one controlling?

Sorry to hear, a lot of people really get out of their shell in college (or wherever you go!). Weather the storm, love what you can, develop where you can and maybe keep in mind that we never really are the person we expect ourselves to be in 5 years

Ohhh nooooooo 6 months? I was hoping this was a phase haha

I dont think people are trying to bend words so much as they are trying to find the best words possible to point in the direction of the Truth. Calling it nothing or something or God is all irrelevant if you know what its pointing to

If that's what you desire and wont hurt your future financially, I would recommend it. However if your desire is more about self actualization, and less about travel, I would just consider that you can be self actualizing while you're getting your dick sucked. You dont have to be in some other culture, learning about what they do, they probably do some fucked up things. If you're really into culture and travel, sure, but you got everything you need right in front of you to make spiritual progress

I get headaches when I smoke weed sometimes but I find that they usually point me to tension I've been holding onto in my head so I find it useful

I think when people have given up on actually doing the practice, they sit around and circle jerk on who has the most accurate pointer to the truth

@Joseph Maynor gotchu not sure when there is more to something In terms of the post, where you said giant cosmic joke, I had a mushroom trip where I found what I call the divine joke. It was just really funny to me at the time that I spend all this time in personal development without actually knowing who I am. I remember like having these crazy visuals which were pillars but had really dumb smiley faces, the ones with like tears coming out of their eyes??? (found them) and audio hallucinations making fun of me for not getting it yet. Question though How did you differentiate between us being prior to the universe and us being the universe?

Could you elaborate here or do you have an essay haha? How would one see the world through each of these lenses?

I agree but I feel like there is a specific mechanism as to why we see it more. This could just be media attention and how everyone wants to talk about people who are supposed to be "good" doing "bad" things, but I also feel like it could stem from an environment of heavy sexual repression and dogma until the brink of collapse, and then well we see it on the news

Haha if you think I should shut the fuck up, go for it, I probably need it. As far as ivankiss, I dont really decide personally who deserves what, but again you're welcome to do that. It does seem like there is some demonization between more Male compassionate people and female compassionate people. People who primarily use logic and thought to work through their emotions (me) tend to demonize people who work through their emotions on the emotional side of things. However they are really to me seemingly two sides of the same coin, a thought has its associated emotion, some people are better at dispelling discomfort through contemplation and more procedural methods, while others stick to the more subjective emotional sides. Ivankiss seems to me to lean slightly heavily into female compassion, I can add quotes and copy and paste stuff, but basically I got the impression that he doesnt consider the more blunt logical approach to love to be love at all. I think that the language used on both of these threads hasn't been conducive to talking about these issues at all, and that's not on any one person. My point is there are important things to be said, and I think we are turning into monkies with shit in our hand, when we have a great opportunity to discuss stuff in a civil matter collaboratively

Are you satisfied with that? I'm not here to judge I'm just curious, on one end you seem to genuinely out there to help people, and on the other you seem to want to provoke and be provoked. You're welcome to do either, I sure as hell chimp out, but I'd like to hear your side and what you're about

Certainly this isnt the best way to have a conversation either, if that's at all unclear I'm happy to explain

Great read! Thanks

I find sometimes when I dont feel motivated that I'm not resting correctly between too much screen time or thinking ideas, do nothing meditation helps here

Is that coming from a book or a video I could watch?

You come off as really condescending here for someone wanting a genuine conversation. To me it seems like you got triggered by someone and wanted to call him a first grader before sarcastically calling him master. Am I wrong or are you here for genuine conversation?