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What do transitions between stages actually look like? We talk about the stages constantly here but almost never about the transitions. So I'm curious about people's actual experience. Not the theory, the lived version. Pick whichever transition you consider your most significant and describe it. If you've got more than one, pick the biggest. I've put some questions under each one to give it some shape, but answer however you want. I'll share mine below. Red to Blue If you had a phase of impulsiveness, defiance, or chaos and then took on structure, faith, discipline, or a code: what was it? What was life like before, and what made the structure appealing? Was there a person or institution involved? How long did it take to feel settled? Blue to Orange For those who grew up inside religion, tradition, strict family rules, or a tight community and left it, or moved toward ambition, achievement, and self-direction. What were you like as a kid inside it, the one who fit or the one who asked questions? Did your siblings, raised in the same house, go the same way, or are some still in? Was there a trigger, or did it erode? How long did it take? What can you do now that you couldn't then? Orange to Green For those who were driven, career-focused, competitive, and then shifted toward relationships, feeling, community, or social concern. What did the Orange period feel like from inside, and what stopped working? Was there an event, a burnout, a relationship, a book, a retreat, or did it just fade? Did people around you go through the same shift at the same time? What did you gain, and what did you give up? Green to Yellow For those who feel they've made this one. What did Green feel like from inside while you were in it, and what was the first crack? Was there a moment, or was it gradual? What can you do now that you couldn't do at Green, concretely? How would someone else be able to tell the difference from the outside? And how do you experience "seeing all the stages" now: is it something you do, or something you're aware of doing? Anything else If your biggest shift doesn't fit these, describe it anyway. And if you feel like you've never really shifted, that you've been more or less the same person with the same outlook since you were young, I'd like to hear that too. A few things I'm especially interested in across all of these: how long transitions take, what triggers them, whether other people in your life moved at the same time, and what specifically you could do afterward that you couldn't before. Are you able to see clear transitions in your own history, and if so, what did it look like?

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This is actually funny af to me. Lol no cringe detected, but if I created it myself, I’d probably see it that way.

Sounds like an awesome round 2. Lol

I feel it would be more effective to run his frame through those questions yourself and form a concrete demonstration of the error, and I think that would be easier for him to respond to. Just my two cents.

Keep it all around until it fades on its own. If you’re the type to go down memory lane and cling, maybe delete.

@yetineti what do you feel would be an appropriate response from Kyle that would let you know he’s understanding your perspective? What exactly are you looking for? If there was one main point you’d like to transfer to him, what would it be?

Anyone tried this yet? I'm very skeptical but some pretty popular devs known for not bullshitting about AI are saying it.

Catchall for interesting stuff related to typology. Share your type, your thoughts about it or other types, and any interesting typology stuff from any system. I'm INTJ. Saw this today and found it interesting: The thing to ponder is gather vs organize. What is that?

This feels big Check out this demo at 45 seconds:

I agree.

@LordFall Now you have to come up with a new video image. "Proving Yeti has very little worth" lol

The solids: rolled oats, walnuts, pecans, almonds, sunflower & pumpkin seeds The glue: banana, peanut butter, vanilla paste, cinnamon, salt

Seems like I've seen her on multiple occasions implying and even flat out saying that too much thinking is taking place lol ("this is wrong, I don't like it"). And I've noticed the bolded bit several times. That's a good heuristic about the connectives. Reminds me of The Secret Life of Pronouns.

It's not just another tool. The process was automatic. The dominant function is like water to a fish. My Ni is not a tool I use on purpose. I do it without even knowing it. I'm not my Ni, but it does comprise a significant chunk of my cognitive architecture and explains much of my behavior and outputs. Ti is a description of a processes, not who you are. It's more so a large part of what you are. I'm not sure if all INTJs are like this, but personally, my accountability process is: does the map track reality. It either does or doesn't. I don't have any preference for what is true, therefore am not tempted to bullshit myself via emotional attachment to a particular answer. My main failure mode is converging too early. The model isn't tracking competence in domains. It's tracking which processes run by default. The default function is the one you never had to run on purpose. It took you a lot of effort to develop Se, and it took you very little to do whatever it is that you were good at from the start.

The IN seems right but you seem like INFP to me. Take that with a grain of salt because I'm not an expert. Do you think that fits?

Nice perspective. Governments have also used spirituality itself.

@Natasha Tori Maru This dude is funny

It's all good!

This is the most Ti thing I've seen all week, lol. That split-column comparison I posted was just meant to be pointers. It's difficult to type yourself without some serious observation and study because what you'll tend to do is ask "which sounds best?" or "what makes the most sense?" instead of "what does my mind actually do?" Everyone can use all 8 functions. The first two functions are the most native and effortless for us. I would imagine gifted people would generally be more competent across the board, depending on how often they exercise the specific functions. INTP function stack Each type spends the majority of their time in their dominant and auxiliary functions. The lower you go, the more difficult things get, generally. It can be the case that someone's job or lifestyle forces a non-native function to operate often and they get good at that function, but if you spend the majority of your time in Ti, you're building really strong Ti while neglecting the others. Notice Se and Fi are the least exercised functions of the INTP. If you research all the functions and if those two seem most repulsive or non-native to you, that's a strong sign. The dominant function isn't a preference - it's your default mode and you don't even know you're doing it. What you have to suppress is native. What you have to do deliberately isn't. You build castles natively. That's an INTP thing that you've put a check on. Most people don't have to put a check on that because they just don't do it. Of course, traits from Big 5 and other models can also explain things. And things like high need for cognition, giftedness, etc., but I have high need for cognition and I'm gifted-lite, and I never cared to build castles for the fun of it. I do a ton of intellectual work but it looks totally different than the work of an INTP. If you could observe the Obsidian vaults of the 10 INTPs and 10 INTJs, you'd see a clear difference, which the model predicts. I can't really prove the model, but hopefully this makes some sense.

By "tending to the tribe", I mean getting your cues from the tribe, pinging off them, taking them into consideration. The tribe is the main reference point for Fe user behavior. And that's because extroverted feeling is feeling outwardly, not inwardly, and the only thing to feel against outwardly is other people. Why do you think you want to know what is going on with people? Why does your Ni need that? What is so important about that data? Something is being served. So, tending to the tribe doesn't necessarily mean taking care of them, although that is an Fe thing, but it's more so that Fe is pinging off the tribe to feed Ni, so it can know what to do and munch on what it considers important, which is derived from the Fe data. That's my understanding anway.