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He was pushing the death penalty for drug dealers.

At first, I thought he was just just laying in wait for a good time to move because he knew he'd been spotted but after watching the video again, he could definitely pass as being disoriented. If he were trying to conceal himself, why would he lay on his side instead of prone position? Also, when he got up to move, he revealed way more of his body than what was necessary. All he had to do was roll over into prone and crawl. Not to mention, he was moving slower than what I'd imagine you'd move if you knew you'd been found out and had to go from A to B before you were swarmed. Not sure what to make the lady in the crowd. Some people just have less reaction to fear than others but she looks sus.

😂 At least you're close. You sound like a buddy I was talking to the other night who I got to admit that Trump stole the election. He wouldn't condemn that with a moral judgement until I pushed him to and he finally groaned and said "yes, he's a piece of shit", but he still couldn't bring himself to say Trump was any worse than Hillary Clinton. Are you like my buddy?

@Raze Please answer this question: Trump tried to steal/coup the government by overthrowing the 2020 election and his political strategist is recorded laying out his exact steps for how he was going to do it before he did it. Do you: Strongly Agree - 1 Agree - 2 Neutral - 3 Disagree - 4 Strongly Disagree - 5 Don't know - 6

Someone needs to figure something out. Was watching Destiny earlier and someone in his chat was trying to think of TV ad ideas to combat the propaganda his parents were consuming. Destiny said he didn't think it would work. I agree normal ads ain't gonna cut it for the most part but maybe he lacks imagination. I think you could get really sneaky and clever with videos but the attack would need to be on multiple fronts, not just video. Would need influencer marketing and it would all have to be orchestrated by someone with some intelligence, which doesn't seem to be in supply. We're in trouble now. These are just the big Trump influencers I'm aware of: Joe Rogan Hulk Hogan Kid Rock Jake and Logan Paul Bryce Hall Mike Tyson Dana White Tucker Carlson Jason Aldean Elon Musk who is propagandizing normies on X, The whole of the RNC and their influence 95%+ of the Christian community How are we gonna beat that list? I downloaded the precinct level election data for 2020 and when you go through it and look at the precinct names, it looks like maybe a third of the precinct names are churches. I just watched a video of my town council meeting and saw that before the meeting begins, everyone stands up and prays to God and that is the first order of business at every meeting. We're fucked.

What is the point in us not knowing we are God? I would assume people would answer "because God wants to know something other than itself". But if that's the case, there are plenty of people these days who know themselves as God. So it seems acceptable to God to know itself as God. Or would the answer be "because God is infinite, it must know itself "not as God" and as "God"? But then the question arises - Why are so few allowed the truth? The balance is way off. Maybe something to do with "metaphysical evolution"? Not sure if that's a term but it is now. Why is the truth uncommon? Why is it hard to get to? Why are so few people privileged to it?

@aurum I should have been more precise with my words. I wasn’t saying I wasn’t sure about the topic and I wanted to figure it out logically. The whole communication was a good faith effort/exercise of trying to see how it could arise in myself so I could possibly see how it could arise in Shirka. I just wanted to clarify, I hold no such beliefs and I’m not a Trump supporter.

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Do you think I should feel bad about posting something like this? I hate that it could come across as disrespectful to Hindus but at the same time, want to attack Christian devilry.

This is gold. Republican civil war is good for us. If they keep up this acceptance of other religion stuff, it's going to ruin them. This single video and a picture of JD Vance's wife next to Ganesha should be advertised from now till the election.

Rather than discuss divine intervention by itself, as Strika is doing, you spun an entire narrative that just so happens to align with every right wing extremist christian nationalist on Youtube. Of which, is Andrew Wilson, who you expressed your utmost respect for. Andrew Wilson's YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@bloodsport00 Notice "bloodsport" in the name. He's a highly toxic Christian nationalist and he's one of your top commentators/pundits. But you're not about all that right wing extremist Christian nationalist stuff that you posted, right?

@aurum I agree but I'm not sure how to go about this sort of thing. Like, I don't think Strika is bad faith or anything and they hold a line of reasoning that to us seems odd. Like, I will concede that if Trump exists, it is because he's supposed to. Maybe let's put the shoe on the other foot. What if Bernie Sanders became president and was doing all sorts of good things for the world and we were happy about that, then he barely escapes an assassin's bullet? I'll be honest, the thought probably would occur to me that "it was or wasn't meant to be". I think the same thing about Trump, but I don't anthropomorphize God as if God has specific desires and pulls levers at different times to get what it wants. I'm pretty sure I would not attribute Bernie escaping an assassin's bullet as divine intervention. I'll admit the thought would likely cross my mind, but I wouldn't allow it to stand.

@strika I gotcha. I thought Leo was taking much more than that single statement into account but maybe not.

@strika Can you draw any parallels from the absurd sentiments held by the Christian Nationalists and the above statement you are defending? I'll post them below to save you some time. The writer suggests God wants us to move towards authoritarianism. Receipt: "he[God] really wants the Americans to either change the government into a more limited democracy" Coincidentally, Christian extremists are advocating for the same thing. The writer suggests that God wants the world to wake up to the evil acts of the left. Receipt: "how vile some lefties were joking about the assassination" Coincidentally, Christian extremists want the world to see these vile lefties for who they actually are. The writer omits all prior Trump devilry in their speculation that, while Trump is potentially the single-most evil force on the planet, he was put there by God to solve the two problems of government overreach and wicked lefties. Receipt: "all is a sign from GOD that he wants Trump to likely win"[to solve the above problems] Coincidentally, Christian extremists push the same idea Now can you see what the problem is when laid out like this? It's also not a coincidence the writer has expressed the highest respect for a guy named Andrew Wilson, who you can find on Youtube. He's a toxic right wing christian nationalist.

😂 I know you wouldn't be allowed around them for long but they would, at first, welcome you with open arms. You'd be kicked out soon after. Go on a right wing Youtube channel right now and say something like "Trump's head turn was an act of divine intervention by God" and see how well-received your sentiment is. You realize this sentiment is the dominant sentiment being held by Christians/evangelicals who seek to make everyone else believe their falsehoods, right? This sentiment is being used in furtherance of evil and you are like, "hey, they are totally right if you just think about it..divine intervention guys... Evil? What evil. It's all God, which is all Love!!!!". IDK, to me, this seems like it would be a clue. You could say a blind squirrel can still find a nut or a broken clock is right twice per day, but these might be ego tricks to allow you to side with the devil. Could be. Just sayin'.

@strika Ask yourself this question: Would the most devilish devils on the right open their doors to you and your sentiments on this topic? The answer is of course, yes, unless you're gay, not white, or not Christian. If you find your ideas one-sidedly praised by the most devilish of devils, this is your clue that you may have inadvertently deviated from the good path.

I know you didn't mean it in the Christian way but you're coming to the defense of a statement that carried a lot of water for that view, although convoluted with some higher teachings.

Been racking my brain on this too

Are they really “miracles”, or just happenstances that occur within the construct? Also, miracles are unique, not the same as every other thing. Also, miracles are always grandiose, by definition. The original statement you’re arguing on behalf of was making a mockery of God and the statement invoked ideas from other posts and teachings that, when added up, amount to much more falsehood than what you’re arguing on behalf of. So, while I might agree that Trump is supposed to be happening, I don’t conceptualize it anywhere near this: it’s a miracle by God Almighty and he wants Trump alive to serve his agenda of righteousness and use him as an instrument of good. That’s the status quo Christian take, which is calling evil good. That’s my understanding of why the message was condemned.

Certain things trigger and energize the right more than others. If AOC were vice president on the Dem ticket, I’m pretty sure her record and personality, once properly smeared by Rs, would contribute significantly to high turnout. Same goes with Greasy Gavin. California, heroin needles on the beach, sets up homeless camps, wants to tax you at 75%. He would be easy as hell to smear. Easier than Biden any day of the week. Maybe Leo is saying forget about the R vote and focus on driving D turnout.

Just wait until the evangelicals find out Hindus prey to an elephant god. If the dems were smart, they’d run a covert smear campaign and flood the zone with imagery of Ganesha , Vance, and his wife. I could see many evangelicals being more upset about that than what they call baby murder.

I get the sense they ain’t gonna let all that money go to waste so they’ll pick Kamala. I agree she is a bad choice. The Rs seemed to have an easy time properly demeaning her in the past and she isn’t able to articulate good points much better than Biden. So many people wouldn’t vote for a woman and so many wouldn’t vote for her skin color and so many wouldn’t vote for her party. But then again, many would, I just have a feeling the numbers aren’t there.

It’s so easy to forget how many good people there are in this world. The comment section will make you weep.

I think it was earlier today, he sat down to have a serious discussion with MTG. 😂

Anyone notice how every mainstream news outlet is being unusually generous and hospitable to the republicans and the RNC? Are they just covering their asses or could it be that they’re acting nice as a tactic to show as many people as possible what an absolute clown show is taking place? Seems unlikely. But I am starting to think this RNC publicity could be negative for Rs. A lot of the MAGA I know would be embarrassed by MGT and the other clowns. They’ll support Trump all day but the others aren’t gonna cut it. When they watch Marjorie TG and her absurd performance and then see Matt Geatz come out looking like Dolly Pardon, and then to listen to Kerry Lake do a short speech with the attitude of a joyous Christian with a soft and loving tone, then, keeping that tone, transition into a confrontational attack on members of the media… it seems embarrassing.