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I didn’t say Trump planned it out. That would be absurd. Lol. It would also be absurd to think that Trump’s campaign does not have access to consultants who could provide them with such a strategy. Of course, it’s also possible he just got really lucky to have such a golden opportunity arrive just in time for the big event.

When all the dust settles from the crazy lies like infant murder and pets getting eaten, the general public will be a little more in the know on abortion and immigrant problems, which is the goal. It’s not that the man who says absurd shit has said more absurd shit, which people are inoculated to, it’s that they will have better reasons to vote R. “Don’t want my town to become like Springfield”, is more motivating than “Trump lied again”. Nearly every video I’ve seen by reputable outlets explicitly acknowledge the Haitian population putting strain on the system. It was a city of 55k and now it’s got 20k+ Haitians. Before, when Trump said “they’re taking over”, everyone just thought it was political bullshit. But now, people will know what he’s talking about, and not just with some border or coastal region. This can happen to YOU if Kamala gets in. This is not some idiot flying off the handle. This shit was planned. Trump’s key issue is now receiving millions of dollars in free press. The excitement from the absurdity will die down and what will be left is not Trump’s lies, but fear of your town being taken over. Seems like a solid strategy to me.

@ryandesreu fear, and how easy it gets triggered.

Maybe. My confidence has lowered a bit. I know there are some leaps in here but humor me and try this on: I saw an MSNBC reporter on the ground in Springfield and they said there was no evidence of cat-eating, but there is a real problem with immigrants. Then, I realized, oh shit, if the average person just looks at this to see if the cat thing is true, the immigration angle would become much more effective. Before seeing that, most normies probably couldn't name one city they knew for sure that had immigrant problems. Now they can. Then I thought: How can he get cameras into a good old American city overrun by immigrants? If he simply tells them to go there and look, no one would listen, but if he made some absurd claims, they would. Especially if he doubled down on it. If he just mentioned it in passing, it might not get much attention, so MAKE SURE you say it very loud and drive the point home. If you go back and watch that clip, something seemed off about it. Also, 1.5 days before, Elon Musk, JD Vance, and other high profile peeps were sharing it. It was debunked by the time the debate happened. I find it hard to believe his campaign didn't know that and understand how crazy it seemed. Pretend this is all true for a second and ask yourself, if tens of millions of normies find out about Springfield's immigrant problem, could that significantly impact the vote? Now... what's the #1 line of attack the Rs have? Immigration. I'm not sure if it would be a good move or not, but it seems like it could be. No? If Springfield becomes a talking point from here on out for them, that will confirm it for me.

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@Shodburrito I don't think you're faking who you are. I think you just haven't fully discovered and understood yourself and your values yet. You do care about other people AND you want them to evolve so you can co-create with them. That's a virtue, not a vice. Obviously though, there are issues with integration. If your goal is to reconcile them, I would look to gain deeper insight into myself. Something is causing the inner chaos. You can only solve it by looking inward, not outward, which I suspect you already know. If you're interested, here are some thoughts: Realize your inherent nature, which you did not choose. You just lucked up. You did not earn these with hard work. - Headstrong - Intelligent - Disciplined, deliberate, a whip to those who shirk - High standards. Set the bar high and get over it. - Driven by competence - Problem solver - Visionary Probably helpful ideas: - Realize others did not receive your gifts. They literally cannot help it. They don't know any better. Literally. They do not have the ability to direct themselves the way that you do. From your POV, it's easy. To them, it's the hardest thing. - There's a trap here you must avoid. They are weak but this is not to be used to slander them or look down on them. Do not call them weak out of anger. Imagine how unfortunate it would be if you lacked the gifts you were born with. I think this is the most profitable thread for you to pull on. - Many people wish they had the ability to operate the way you do, but it just isn't in them. This means you should make an effort to be humble when you're around them because it's easy to offend. For example, my vocabulary is shit but it's bigger than most around me. I have to intentionally dumb down my words so they don't think I'm trying to be smart, which would offend. Don't broadcast your intelligence or your gifts. They can already see them, even though they act like they don't. They might come to you in their darkest hour because they know you're the one with the answers and the strength. Let that be the only recognition you need. - Yes, you do care about people. A big heart is not a weakness. You want what's best for them AND you want connection, but these two can conflict because most days, you're probably in results mode and fuck the feelings, let's go. You don't want to be bogged down by bullshit but it's the cost you have to pay if you want a social life. You might have to learn to let loose. - The quality of people matter. Distinguish between acquaintance and friend. Be selective about who gets your attention. I found a few buddies who could put up with my thinking for long enough that I could get some good conversations out of them. Don't invest too much time in people you don't value. - Lastly, your ego, like all egos, wants recognition. From time to time, try to catch that and make a mental note to check it next time. Over time, the ego's desire for recognition diminishes. I hope these ideas might help or lead you to other lines of contemplation that could be profitable.

All eyes on Springfield.

@El Zapato That's a badass movie idea!

I'm not a fan of light vs dark. That is going on but if you've ever known an evil/dark person and saw they cannot help it, then you realize no one can help it and that it's no one's fault. You can try to trace it back to their parents but then you have to trace it back to their grandparents, on and on and on. It can't be traced back. No one is to blame. Sufficient contemplation on this point helped me a good bit.

I'd call it just regular chess, although I think a better analogy is poker. In poker, when your opponent realizes that you're aware of their tactics, they adapt and patch the exploit, necessitating the development of new exploits. Over time, the deceptions become increasingly sophisticated. Now, apply this dynamic to society and those who seek to exploit/manipulate it. Marketers do their tricks and when those tricks become well-known—like many have become in recent years, thanks to the internet—marketers have to devise even trickier tactics. Just as in poker, once these new exploits are identified, they prompt an even deeper layer of deception. If you want to manipulate society, you have to update your methods. Lex Fridman comes to mind. haha I'm pretty sure Kamala's campaign is also engaging in similar trickery, which seems necessary. The whole point of every campaign is influence, which doesn't work if people know they're being manipulated, so the influence has to be hidden. But no doubt, the right is far less integrous in their pursuit of influence.

I think I figured out the deal with this Haitian cat stuff. I knew it was a part of their strategy but I couldn’t figure out why they would do something so stupid. Turns out, it might not be so stupid. Springfield actually is overburdened by Haitian immigrants. The cats are irrelevant. What they wanted was to get everybody to look at the ridiculousness of the claims so the press would take cameras into Springfield and show the American people a real-world example of what danger is coming their way if Kamala wins. Has nothing to do with animals. They played it well.

Betting markets have Kamala up 5 points within 22 hours after debate. I feel like that's significant.

Ahh yes, I didn't think about that. Also, I think some of it is "I'm a careful thinker... I don't just make decisions for no reason".

This isn't just the ideological right either. Have you seen random people in the swing states being asked how the debate shaped their view? It's pathetic that they answer with things like "I think Kamala won but she needs to earn my vote". 😂 WHAT? The fact that half the country is looking at Kamala and Trump and waiting on Kamala to earn their vote is so... something.

"How" meaning? I wonder if it's more "what", than "how". The what directs the how. You think like(how) this because of what? The what seems more fundamental, but maybe I'm just mental! To me, it seems the cause is a change in values. Endlessly stuffing random knowledge and non-stop contemplation into your psyche seems to be let go at a certain point, in favor of something else.

Well, damn. I was most interested in that. I feel your pain. This WYSIWYG editor sucks. I got in the habit of periodically ctrl + a (select all) > ctrl + c. Everything I copy goes to Ditto, a clipboard manager. Works with images too. Just use a hotkey to to make it pop up and you can bring anything back for pasting. Well, yeah, when you say it like that it seems relatively harmless.

haha, I can tell!

@Keryo Koffa you didn't have to do much work here 😂

Something tells me they knew what they were doing. I assume they were tracking public sentiment and were well aware of perceptions that sprang from the last debate and they planned accordingly. They did a very nice job! 😂

I'm sorry if that is the case. Sometimes I wonder if I have a superiority complex but I tell myself that I just want what's best for everyone and when I ask myself is that really true, the answer is absolutely yes. So I'm not sure. I should check my tone though. I probably do have pent up hostility that leaks out and I just don't check it. Thanks for checking me. That said, just because you can handle the worst, most people I know couldn't, so I would not want them to go down such a path.

can you explain? That's the point. She said she didn't want to do psyches. Something tells me she's not ready for spirit summoning. I've been wanting to ask you about this. Why do it? What do you get that you don't already get? Infinite beauty.. I've seen in. It doesn't seem to matter. Once the magic trick has been seen, it loses appeal. It seems to be driven by a need for novelty and exploration. As advanced as you are, you're still seeking more. I was like that. You know the crazy thing about this whole fucking thread is, earlier today I was wondering if you, Keryo, was living rent free in my fractal heart and were possessing me, and I thought back to that lady I once knew who went batshit with those sorts of thoughts, then I felt the fear of going mad and it's been with me all day.

"worst" cannot be handled by 99.99999999% of people, which is why the risk is too high. Keryo might be able to handle it, but I don't think I could, and I've seen some shit! I'm willing to go places most others aren't and to stare the devil in the face but when you do that, you risk going mad. It's not something to do on a whim or for fun. What we're talking about here is potentially more extreme than psychedelics. Experiencing a psychedelic experience and coming back to reality is one thing. It's a whole nother thing to construct a reality like this. You could wind up in a bad trip you can't turn off.

I'm not sure what egregor is but I know a human who, little by little, dabbled in this idea of her having magical powers and that she and others could possess people. Life has been very unpleasant for her and it's sad to see. I know how she got there and I just explained it, so.

Incredibly high risk. Madness comes on little by little. When you see those people in the movies who are crazy as fuck in the psyche wards, they exist in real life and they often aren't born that way. They work their way there, little by little. At first, it's just a toe dip. Before you know it, you're skinny dippin' out of boredom. 2-3 years later, you're banging your head against a padded wall trying to convince the guards you have control over them while they give you another dose of haldol. You could do it if felt compelled but it doesn't sound like you do, so you should give it a hard pass IMO.

1. Output more important than attributes. Good is irrelevant if the output is bad. If bad produces overall good, which it doesn't tend to, let's go! 2. My chosen paradigm dispenses with useless concepts 3. One has to play a game. 4. Don't go there! 😂 5. I like that! Here's another: Always fascinated by your analysis!