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For now, it's good to practice sorting facts from speculation. Speculations are fine so long as they aren't too heavily weighted. This entire thing has been riddled with false conspiracies, so anytime my speculation starts leaning towards what feels out there, I reel it in and remind myself that I simply don't have enough data to verify much of anything, and I sure as hell ain't gonna be led by the logic of online randos because there are too many fools that make it hard to know who's assessment is solid. Professional hitjob shouldn't be ruled out, but it shouldn't be more than 50% probability, because the information landscape surrounding this is a minefield of falsehood and we don't have enough data, in my view. I decided to stop looking at all the conspiracies because they're mostly false and a huge waste of time and energy. I'm just gonna wait and let everyone else flesh it out. Smarter, not harder. lol

lol. Bot farms are just something to keep in mind. We live in an age where they serve as a valuable tool for spreading ideas via emotional osmosis and mimetic desire. The wolves are always one step ahead of the sheep, it seems.

I think the more deluded and more egotistical, the easier it is to repress and carry the trauma. It’s like a deeply traumatized child - they can be fucked up and not know it for decades. Her neediness and all the distractions that she adores will prevent her healing. Her status position got elevated to the highest level she could ever imagine. Powerful and famous people she had never spoken to phoned in to tell her they were sorry. The vice president rushed to her side and flew her away on his private jet. There was a grand spectacle of a memorial where she was the main character, with millions of eyeballs watching her display her virtue. In other words, her ego got taken for the ride of its life and there’s no telling how she responds when the dust settles, but I suspect she will continue to seek distractions to avoid the work of healing. The ego ain’t got time for all that silence and reflection.

🤦‍♂️You are a deflection machine!!! lol, but it's all good.

Haha. Wonder if all those cancelled Disney+ subs had anything to do with it.

Exactly

Imagine your average bible-thumping young American. Now imagine they have the gift of gab. Now imagine they earn millions of dollars with that gift. Now imagine they rise to a high level of fame. Now imagine they're heavily depended upon by the highest government office on the planet. How could the ego not be massive? "We are God's chosen, which is why we are blessed. Not only do we believe we're God's chosen, but we have a whole community of Christians who affirm this to us daily. On top of that, we prove to ourselves daily that we are the most righteous via debate and our superior gift of gab. Also, we have massive influence over the world, we MUST be superior. We have millions upon millions of dollars. This also confirms we are superior. We are so important that the highest levels of government depends on us." If we plug an underdeveloped ego into the scenario above, we can make some educated guesses about what we're dealing with.

Preempting your "but he genuinely thought it was stolen" ChatGPT: Claude:

I'm not so sure Trump and Elon are comparable here. Trump is not an ideologue who cares about conservatism or capitalism. He cares about his power. And he cares so much about it that he would undermine and uproot democracy to keep it, just as he did in 2020 when he sent fake slates of electors to try to rig the election. Clearly.

Oh yeah, I don't doubt at all that she thinks she has forgiven the shooter. Thing is, most Christians would admit to themselves they don't have the ability to forgive someone like this the way that Jesus could. Especially not so soon. Any Christian who demonstrates this ability is either highly spiritually developed or incredibly delusional. I think we can safely remove the first option. Her "forgiveness" points to a massive ego. Combine this with her performative bullshit like fake crying interspersed with real crying, silently praying to God in front of thousands, moving her lips to let everyone know she's praying, her excessive flashy jewelry.... I could go on and on. It's clear to me the ego on this one is massive, and she's obviously delusional as hell. Put this into the context of who she was married to, and it basically confirms my read.

lol, I'm not assuming! I'm using real-world data. There is a small amount of reading between the lines, but not much.

She could have written it herself. I'm surrounded by Christians. I know how they virtue signal. And I know an actor when I see one. I can snuff bullshit out a mile away, and she was full of shit. Her spiritual ego is fucking massive. Blows my mind how people didn't see anything other than that.

MAGA is not representative of conservatism. Normal conservatism is nowhere near as repulsive as MAGA. MAGA is authoritarian, which is clear. Concentration camps are a strawman of what we're saying about MAGA. We're saying they want power and control and they're willing to be authoritarian to get it. This is 100% true. Can you admit this to yourself? If you can, now you can ask the question, to what ends would they be willing to go to achieve their goals? That all depends on how things play out. Will they setup concentration camps for their political opponents? No, because the optics would be too bad. But would they do other things like send them to prison for no good reason? Abso-fuckin-lutlely. And it's already in the works. Everything I've said here, as far as I know, is a fact. If these are facts, do you side with it or against it, and how strongly would you side with or against it? If you side with it, this gets you the "fascist" label. If you side against it but take no strong stance, this gets you the "conflict-avoidant moderate" or "passive enabler" label. If you strongly oppose it, this gets you the "common sense, reasonable, decent person" label.

She didn't forgive shit. It was totally performative - signaling virtue as if she's some saint. These people operate under delusions that are hard for more conscious people to fathom.

And he was applauded for it all. The biggest applause that I saw was when he mentioned retribution.

I actually think this is gold for their movement. There's no telling how many fence-sitters will now become Christian or right-wing. This is a culture war and the right is getting unprecedented exposure where the they're being painted as good and the opposition evil. No matter what happens to TPUSA, this feels like a huge win for the right in terms of bringing more people over to their side.

Yes. I live amongst them. Ironically, for me, Christian funerals are like spiritual warfare to attend because not only am I dealing with grief from loss, but I have to watch them administer their poison and pretend like nothing is happening. IME, these types of events give you firsthand experience of a very toxic phenomenon.

This shit is repulsive. Imagine being in that arena. lol. Traumatized by cringe.

I hope he starts talking about his new ballroom. lol.

It would be funny if Trump turns it into a political rally where his ego takes center stage.

Haha, bro, you're demonstrating the model's point about conflict avoidance. You're resisting taking a stance against authoritarianism. Think about that. You think you're arriving at your both-sides, no-stance position via good reason and wisdom, but you're not. You're arriving at your position, not from reason, but from unconscious psychological forces. If you could be truthful with yourself about this, you'd see the absurdity in the idea of seeing the merits of authoritarianism. A true tier-2 thinker could analyze the merits of authoritarianism, but they would be conscious enough to take a strong stance against it.

@DocWatts I think a better name for "Peripheral Supporters" is "System Supports". Here's an updated graphic.

That'd be awesome - no attribution needed. I'm just glad if it helps others make sense of things. Thank you!