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It's totally possible they censored it and I wouldn't be surprised if they did, but you can't go around saying it's a fact unless you actually know. This careless thinking is probably the #1 cause of delusion. Do it 10,000 times and see where it takes you. Falsehood has a cost.

@zazen Of the general population, how common do you think victimhood mentality is? When we're not engaged in self-development, It's natural for us to blame all our problems on something else out there. This very natural tendency for humans to play victim is what has been tapped into. Why take responsibility for your own life when you can blame it on something else? If you agree with this, then you have to consider the degree to which it's implicated in the phenomenon we're discussing. What the left and the right have in common is they both know our government has always been corrupt and no one likes elites having the control that they do. How easy it is to tell people the source of their pain is the ruling elite. With a loud enough megaphone, Trump exploited this via con artistry. He and his ilk are the most fucking corrupt elites. If you want to stamp out corruption and actually solve the problems, you can't do it via Trumpism. I agree with every right winger that the government needs fixing, but I part ways with them in their thinking that Trump is the answer. It's about the stupidest thing I can think of. As for the global phenomenon, I don't know what elements of reality have had what impact. Everything is interconnected and affects everything else, but I'm not buying the rise of your "populist" movement is due to liberals run amok. Seems like a good story right wingers can use to justify their willful ignorance and persistent denial of reality so they can feel good in their little bubbles.

@Nemra It looks interesting. Definitely going to check it out. Thanks! RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA

I'm not picking on them and these aren't just people yapping online. These are literally my nextdoor neighbors. I shared it because I get the sense that most people don't actually truly know the mind of MAGA. They might only see it online and then think they know something about it. I'm not sure how much centrists are evaluating reality for truth. I suspect the majority of them desire harmony over truth. There's a reason why solid reason is rejected, and it's not because they just reasoned wrong. I'm glad your country is finally on the right path. If Trump wins, I suspect we'll go through something very similar, and if we make it out with democracy intact, of course those who ushered it all in will go into denial.

Good point.

I am being honest. I actually do not know that it was censored. Do I find it odd that if you type in "trump rogan" or "rogan trump" that it wouldn't show up in the top spot? Yes I do. I would expect that query to return the interview in the top spot, but I don't pretend to know the intricacies of how YT handles that, especially with content that was just released. How much time does it take for their algorithm to adjust? Designing search for billions of people and returning results based on thousands of parameters is a complicated thing. I've never studied it, and the only evidence I have that it was censored is "that's odd, it should be in the top spot". Can you walk us through the technical details of how you know this to be fact and not just your speculation? Also, Rogan himself went on X and said there was no problem with YT.

You an expert on search algorithms and YouTube’s handling of keyword combos? This reminds me of that time right wingers thought Wayfair was selling kids on their website due to a database malfunction. Ashley for $8,000.

Even if they could see the truth of their movement, they wouldn't care because they think it can't happen here. It's layer upon layer of foolishness. For all those who don't seem to know Trumpists, here's a taste for you. These people make up ~80% of my community and they exist in the tens of millions.

Trump didn't do it single-handedly. He had a lot of help. Did you know that you can make someone believe they experienced something they didn't? That's how malleable the psyche is. Given that, do you think it's possible to install grievances? If Tucker Carlson tells millions of Americans every night for 5 years that they have a problem, and then shows them compelling evidence, do you think that could make some people think they have a problem when they actually don't? You can make people fear things. You can make them hate things. And you can make it all up out of thin air. Tucker Carlson has bragged about being able to do just this. All humans have problems. It's easy to tap into them. How many people feel lonely? Well guess what, it's possible to tell lonely people that the reason they are lonely is because society has abandoned them. How many people have a problem with authority? Well guess what, it's easy to make them believe the Democrat party wants full control over them. On and on it goes. The vast majority of the so-called grievances the right has have been installed into them. Sorry.

Yeah, I'm not saying it should or shouldn't exist in society, although, ideally our comedians could figure out other ways to make people laugh, what I'm saying is that leaders have immense power to shape society and they should be as far away from that type of rhetoric as possible. You can't expect the population to be healthy and integrous if their leaders display the opposite of it. At least Kamala pays lip service to virtue, even if it's scripted. I understand it can be annoying when comedians get shit about their jokes but I don't understand why it moves some people as much as it does. I have a friend who it really bothers that so-called leftists or liberals are stifling his comedy entertainment and it drove him to seeking out overt anti-PC comedy. He gets off when a comedian does or says something to trigger people. The more provocative, the more excited he gets. I can't figure out why he cares so much when a comedian he likes gets attacked. I like Bill Burr, but if people started giving him shit, I just wouldn't care.

@Nemra I agree with them that society is very unhealthy but I'm not sure I would say it's deteriorating, although some things may be. Society was never anything great to begin with. Obviously, Hollywood and the entertainment industry along with social media have had huge negative effects, but we all demand those things, so It is what it is. We wanted to watch movies, and movies we got. We wanted more action, more killing, more excitement, more ass and tities, so that's what we got. It was a runaway effect and now here we are.

@Nemra They complain that society is morally deteriorating yet they clap the loudest at insults and swear words.

And the right bitches about a degenerate society while clapping and cheering it on. Nothing amps them up quite like swear words and insults. Someone should put together a montage of Trump's crowd going wild at all his swear words and insults. It should include that time Roseanne Barr fucked up. It'd be a brutal ad.

Of course the left will try to capitalize on this and the right will dismiss it. What's interesting are the people who don't see how such rhetoric coming from the team of the nation's likely president is worthy of rebuke. Do you think this rhetoric that is now common at Trump rallies is worthy of rebuke? Or is it only the left's overreaction to it that you're interested in? Do you believe this rhetoric is healthy or of little consequence? What impact do you think it might have on the citizenry? Do you think the people on the right will be more emboldened to engage in the "othering" you always talk about? Do you think it will make them more or less racists, more or less hostile? Or do you just say "It was a comedian, he always talks like that"? When Trump tell's a rally-goer to elbow a bitch in the face and he'll pay his way out of jail and when the left reacts to that, are they reacting over nothing and just trying to win political points, or is there a legitimate reason for rebuke? The issue is not some "you shouldn't treat people like that... how dare you!". The issue is that when leaders of nations are like this, it toxifies the entire nation. It has nothing to do with some people got their feelings hurt, unless you're blinded by hatred of the left.

My understanding is that we are at a very specific point on an evolutionary timeline. Consciousness is evolving but higher conscious variants are not yet the norm because those variants simply have not proliferated. Something like that. We were born 10,000 years too early.

whah, whah, whah. Society doesn't acknowledge us enough. All the gays get all the attention. This shit is fucked up! Everybody hates whitey. We want to be represented in hollywood too goddamnit! M&M cartoons should not wear boots that make my dick hard. whah, whah, whah. You guys are ignorant AF. Before Trump, his 80+ million were largely apolitical and didn't have many problems with the government. I know a ton of Trump supporters. Before Trump, they were just watching sports and hunting and fishing and coaching little league or getting drunk and doing drugs. They didn't give a damn about any government policy. Sure, they never liked the fact that other cultures started appearing in their nightly TV session, but they were not over here acting like society left them behind. This is just sad, delusional cope. What's worse is the same group fancies themselves tough but they cry like little bitches when they see other people getting attention. And if you want to talk about a degenerate society, this is not to be blamed on Democrats. You can blame it on human nature. Back when western TV shows first started coming on, they found out the shows were more successful the more attractive the characters. Fast forward to today, TV serves you pussy poppin' because that's what gets your animal ass to click. It's largely a function of capitalism and the evolution of a free society. And that picture of the guy on the leash, that's in Key West during Fantasy Fest, which is a week long parade where everyone dresses up like that. They've been doing it for a long time. I was leaving my job on Duval street going home once during the parade and a random guy asked if I wanted to fuck his wife while he watched. Fun times! All of this perceived debauchery is a form of human expression that you don't like. To assign it to the Democrats just shows you got propaganda brain rot.

Jesus Christ bro, the projection is next level. It's interesting that you keep such close tabs on strangers on internet forums. You know my actualized.org timeline... that's a little strange. I'm starting to think you actually might be unwell and I should disengage before you freak out and shoot up some shit or something. I'll back off. Take care bro.

I don't care what the others say, you're a valuable member of this community.

Nice share! Sorry certain realities are hard for you to stomach. Next time, I'll be sure to include a chapter on empathy and how they're human beings too. Maybe that'll help you not get lost in your own psychic distortions. Something like this: For all their faults, they are people just like me. I am no better than them. I even care about them and love them. I do not think they are inferior to me. However, it is a fact that their willful ignorance to accept what is true and to deny reality has manifested a highly volatile scenario where the fate of the world is on the line. No matter how unsettling, this is true, but we should remember they are people as well. That's the best I can do for you. I know it's not perfectly tailored to your liking but I couldn't omit that one truth I know you don't like.

Good idea. It's important that we maintain a good image so others can think highly of us. Now, be a predictable boy and get the last word in. Make it count!

Aww, you're special. The question was to you sweetheart, not other members. A simple "yes, I ignorantly assumed what you have and have not considered and based my entire argument on that" would have sufficed, but I understand the need for social validation. It's nothing to be ashamed of. We all do it from time to time.

Even your adhoms are fallacious. Your entire post relies on false assumptions and your understanding of the topic is lacking. Why do you assume my position dismisses their grievances? Why do you assume I haven't examined the disconnect you're referring to? Why do you assume I simply chalk up the 80+ million people to simply being low-conscious? Why do you assume I view those 80 million as the scum of the earth? Do you like these assumptions because they help you dismiss the truth? The people in my life who I love most are Trumpists. I'm not very political. But you and your "type" ignorantly label anyone who has my position as being left or progressive, because you use your assumptions as if they're fact. That's how the truth works. It's perfect and it can't be tore down, no matter how hard you try. It's coherent and logical. You can criticize my interpretation of the truth and maybe say I focus too much on one aspect of it, but no one cares what you say if you dismiss the truth outright. And please, spare us your Tucker Carlson talking points. Lastly, why do you feel the need to wrap the word Trumpism in quotes? Is it because you reject the term? I don't need an answer. I already know that's the case. Good day to you sir.

It'll be interesting how the 'wisdom of the crowds' evolves.

The whole "chaos agent" cohort no longer has a leg to stand on. They did in 2016, but after Trump tried to overthrow the democratic will of the people to seize power for himself, it became obvious the chosen chaos agent is too chaotic to fuck around with. Just as good sense-making isn't in everyone's wheelhouse, neither is tact. That said, I would employ much more tact face to face than what I do on a forum discussing Trumpism. You left out the largest factor. Can you figure out where the majority of the negative emotions actually stem from? If you understood this point, you yourself would likely speak against Trumpism rather than attempt to make room for it. If you care about the world and care about people, you experience pain from Trumpism. People with a small circle of concern, or dare I say, lacking moral development, can only view it intellectually and that's why centrists can't wrap their heads around what they like to call TDS. This critique seems black and white and reductionist. You're projecting black and white thinking onto others. For example, why would you assume others would call Bernie supporters high consciousness just because they voted for Bernie? Anyone using a single data point like "voted for Bernie" as marker of high consciousness would be a great example of bad thinking.

Unless you're willing to go all out in spirituality, it doesn't make sense to bother yourself too much with understanding the why of reality. If it is no longer interesting or causing you distress, just put it on the back burner and come back to it when you feel like it. In the meantime, occupy yourself with things you enjoy. You don't have to know right now and if you insist that you do, that should be let go of. It sounds like a form of OCD; uselessly and neurotically fixating on something, telling yourself that you must, but in reality, you just need to learn to shift your focus and accept that sometimes things must be let go.